[Go-essp-tech] Minutes: Dry Run of ESG Model Metadata UI 9/14/09
Sylvia Murphy
murphys at ucar.edu
Mon Sep 14 15:50:27 MDT 2009
Present:
Luca Cinquini
Steven Pascoe
Julien Chastang
Hans Ramthun + 2
Hannes Thiemann
Balic Neboisa
Hans-Herman Winter
Jorg Wegner
Stephanie Legutke
Stephen Kinderman
Allyn Treshansky
Eric Guilyardi
Phil Bently
Cecelia DeLuca
Charlotte Pascoe
Sebastien Denvil
Mark Morgan
Sylvia Murphy
On 9/14/09 Curator conducted a dry run of a demonstration of ESG's
model metadata display for CMIP5. Thanks to everyone who participated
and gave us early feedback on our efforts to date. Below are the
specific comments and issues captured. I would also like to take a
second and thank Balaji and Serguei for the time they spent with us
developing the CMIP5 instance that was used in this demonstration. It
facilitated much needed discussion about how CMIP5 instances will
appear in the display.
*Properties:*
1) A discussion ensued about the use of Realm and Discipline in the
display. In the ontology, Realm is the physical domain of a model
(e.g. atmosphere, ocean, land, ice) while Discipline is a topic used
to describe a component or simulation (e.g. climate, carbon cycle,
weather prediction). The ESG interface allows users to search on
Discipline. Allyn and Eric reported that how these terms are being
used in questionnaire and the CIM differs. Eric suggested that some
consensus by Metafor is needed for these terms to avoid confusion.
Allyn will initiate an email thread on this topic.
2) Everyone agreed to keep the simulation dates as full dates with
hours.
3) We will move Calendar to the Basic Properties tab.
4) Sylvia indicated that some groups, like CCSM, plan to create an
alias for their email contacts (e.g. ccsm_cmip5 at ucar.edu <mailto:ccsm_cmip5 at ucar.edu
>). Cecelia suggested that the questionnaire explicitly warn people
that the contact emails they list will be displayed on a public website.
5) People liked that they could search for terms on the All Properties
tab using their browser.
*Definitions:*
1) Everyone liked the pop up definitions. The participants liked that
they would not result in accidental rollovers and thought they were
clear and unobtrusive.
2) The definition icon was a question mark but after feedback Curator
changed it to an "i". Eric mentioned he thought the icons merely
looked like bullets and suggested a string somewhere on the page to
tell people to click on the icon for more information.
3) Everyone agreed that all terms should have i's with definitions in
the display no matter how simple the term.
*Components:*
1) Several people commented that they want to be able to get back to
the root of the component tree from any child component and that it
would be nice to see the entire component tree. Several possible
options were suggested for this:
a) A breadcrumb trail that lists the components above the current
component all the way to the root.
b) A quick link back to the root
c) Display of the full tree somewhere on the page; being able to
see the component tree without having to go to a component tab first.
*Tabs: *
1) The new nested sub-tabs were presented. Everyone liked the idea.
Sylvia asked if anything else should be done with their format. Eric
mentioned having them be more seamless. This suggestion jibes with
previous suggestions and is already listed as a requirement.
*Grid:*
1) Some asked again if the actual gridspec files will be linked on the
grid tab. Sylvia indicated that this is planned. This item is also a
carry over from the previous demonstration.
*CMIP3 Instances:*
1) Eric asked if the CMIP3 instances planned for the Oct release were
going to be all instances (e.g. those at NCAR and those at PCMDI).
Luca responded that for the Oct release the portal will only contain
the CCSM instances that are local to NCAR. Eric made a follow on
comment that it would be nice to have them all eventually. Luca
responded saying someone at PCDMI would need to get involved in
harvesting their system and wanted to know if someone at Metafor had
already done this. A discussion ensued on this topic that will be
continued on the Metafor list.
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Sylvia Murphy
Project Manager
Earth System Modeling Project
http://www.esmf.ucar.edu
National Center for Atmospheric Research
1850 Table Mesa Drive
Boulder, CO 80305
303-497-1882
murphys at ucar.edu
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