[Go-essp-tech] Minutes: Dry Run of ESG Model Metadata UI 9/14/09

Sylvia Murphy murphys at ucar.edu
Mon Sep 14 15:50:27 MDT 2009


Present:
Luca Cinquini
Steven Pascoe
Julien Chastang
Hans Ramthun + 2
Hannes Thiemann
Balic Neboisa
Hans-Herman Winter
Jorg Wegner
Stephanie Legutke
Stephen Kinderman
Allyn Treshansky
Eric Guilyardi
Phil Bently
Cecelia DeLuca
Charlotte Pascoe
Sebastien Denvil
Mark Morgan
Sylvia Murphy

On 9/14/09  Curator conducted a dry run of a demonstration of ESG's  
model metadata display for CMIP5.  Thanks to everyone who participated  
and gave us early feedback on our efforts to date. Below are the  
specific comments and issues captured.  I would also like to take a  
second and thank Balaji and Serguei for the time they spent with us  
developing the CMIP5 instance that was used in this demonstration.  It  
facilitated much needed discussion about how CMIP5 instances will  
appear in the display.


*Properties:*

1) A discussion ensued about the use of Realm and Discipline in the  
display.  In the ontology, Realm is the physical domain of a model  
(e.g. atmosphere, ocean, land, ice) while Discipline is a topic used  
to describe a component or simulation (e.g. climate, carbon cycle,  
weather prediction).  The ESG interface allows users to search on  
Discipline.  Allyn and Eric reported that how these terms are being  
used in questionnaire and the CIM differs.  Eric suggested that some  
consensus by Metafor is needed for these terms to avoid confusion.   
Allyn will initiate an email thread on this topic.

2) Everyone agreed to keep the simulation dates as full dates with  
hours.

3) We will move Calendar to the Basic Properties tab.

4) Sylvia indicated that some groups, like CCSM, plan to create an  
alias for their email contacts (e.g. ccsm_cmip5 at ucar.edu <mailto:ccsm_cmip5 at ucar.edu 
 >).  Cecelia suggested that the questionnaire explicitly warn people  
that the contact emails they list will be displayed on a public website.

5) People liked that they could search for terms on the All Properties  
tab using their browser.

*Definitions:*

1) Everyone liked the pop up definitions.  The participants liked that  
they would not result in accidental rollovers and thought they were  
clear and unobtrusive.

2) The definition icon was a question mark but after feedback Curator  
changed it to an "i".  Eric mentioned he thought the icons merely  
looked like bullets and suggested a string somewhere on the page to  
tell people to click on the icon for more information.
3) Everyone agreed that all terms should have i's with definitions in  
the display no matter how simple the term.

*Components:*

1) Several people commented that they want to be able to get back to  
the root of the component tree from any child component and that it  
would be nice to see the entire component tree.  Several possible  
options were suggested for this:

    a) A breadcrumb trail that lists the components above the current  
component all the way to the root.
    b) A quick link back to the root
    c) Display of the full tree somewhere on the page; being able to  
see the component tree without having to go to a component tab first.

*Tabs: *

1) The new nested sub-tabs were presented.  Everyone liked the idea.   
Sylvia asked if anything else should be done with their format.  Eric  
mentioned having them be more seamless.  This suggestion jibes with  
previous suggestions and is already listed as a requirement.

*Grid:*

1) Some asked again if the actual gridspec files will be linked on the  
grid tab.  Sylvia indicated that this is planned.  This item is also a  
carry over from the previous demonstration.

*CMIP3 Instances:*

1) Eric asked if the CMIP3 instances planned for the Oct release were  
going to be all instances (e.g. those at NCAR and those at PCMDI).   
Luca responded that for the Oct release the portal will only contain  
the CCSM instances that are local to NCAR.  Eric made a follow on  
comment that it would be nice to have them all eventually.  Luca  
responded saying someone at PCDMI would need to get involved in  
harvesting their system and wanted to know if someone at Metafor had  
already done this.  A discussion ensued on this topic that will be  
continued on the Metafor list.
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Sylvia Murphy
Project Manager

Earth System Modeling Project
http://www.esmf.ucar.edu
National Center for Atmospheric Research
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Boulder, CO 80305
303-497-1882
murphys at ucar.edu






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