[Met_help] [rt.rap.ucar.edu #93557] History for the different units for forecast and observed TMP

John Halley Gotway via RT met_help at ucar.edu
Thu Apr 2 14:11:50 MDT 2020


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Dear Mr. or Mrs.,
It seems now for my point2stat results, the forecast and observation for
tmp are using different units.

The "FCST_UNITS" is "K" while BOS_UNITS is "NA" (in red color in the
attached example)
I also attached the first line and second line in the following.
Did I miss something in the configuration?
Your help is appreciated.
Regards,
Ting
^^
VERSION MODEL  DESC FCST_LEAD FCST_VALID_BEG  FCST_VALID_END  OBS_LEAD
OBS_VALID_BEG   OBS_VALID_END   FCST_VAR FCST_UNITS FCST_LEV OBS_VAR
OBS_UNITS OBS_LEV OBTYPE VX_MASK INTERP_MTHD INTERP_PNTS FCST_THRESH
OBS_THRESH COV_THRESH ALPHA LINE_TYPE TOTAL FBAR           FBAR_NCL
FBAR_NCU       FBAR_BCL FBAR_BCU FSTDEV         FSTDEV_NCL     FSTDEV_NCU
  FSTDEV_BCL FSTDEV_BCU OBAR           OBAR_NCL       OBAR_NCU
OBAR_BCL OBAR_BCU OSTDEV        OSTDEV_NCL    OSTDEV_NCU    OSTDEV_BCL
OSTDEV_BCU PR_CORR     PR_CORR_NCL PR_CORR_NCU PR_CORR_BCL PR_CORR_BCU
SP_CORR KT_CORR RANKS FRANK_TIES ORANK_TIES ME             ME_NCL
ME_NCU         ME_BCL ME_BCU ESTDEV         ESTDEV_NCL     ESTDEV_NCU
ESTDEV_BCL ESTDEV_BCU MBIAS       MBIAS_BCL MBIAS_BCU MAE
 MAE_BCL MAE_BCU MSE                MSE_BCL MSE_BCU BCMSE
 BCMSE_BCL BCMSE_BCU RMSE           RMSE_BCL RMSE_BCU E10
E10_BCL E10_BCU E25            E25_BCL E25_BCU E50            E50_BCL
E50_BCU E75            E75_BCL E75_BCU E90            E90_BCL E90_BCU EIQR
          EIQR_BCL EIQR_BCU MAD            MAD_BCL MAD_BCU ANOM_CORR
ANOM_CORR_NCL ANOM_CORR_NCU ANOM_CORR_BCL ANOM_CORR_BCU ME2
 ME2_BCL ME2_BCU MSESS         MSESS_BCL MSESS_BCU RMSFA RMSFA_BCL
RMSFA_BCU RMSOA RMSOA_BCL RMSOA_BCU




V8.1.2  FV3SAR NA   000000    20191214_000000 20191214_000000 000000
20191213_231500 20191214_004500 TMP      K          Z2       TMP     NA
   Z2      ONLYSF FULL    BILIN       4           NA          NA         NA
        0.05  CNT        5267   276.89427      276.65875      277.1298
      NA       NA     8.72123        8.55781        8.89105            NA
      NA   277.35167      277.11074      277.5926           NA       NA
 8.92123       8.75407       9.09494            NA         NA  0.98697
 0.98625      0.98765           NA          NA      NA      NA     0
   0          0    -0.45739       -0.49622       -0.41856        NA     NA
    1.43778        1.41084        1.46578            NA         NA
0.99835          NA        NA     1.09136         NA      NA
2.27603         NA      NA         2.06682           NA        NA
1.50865          NA       NA     -2.15132         NA      NA    -1.18707
      NA      NA    -0.35911         NA      NA     0.40374         NA
 NA     1.0863          NA      NA     1.59081          NA       NA
0.79113         NA      NA        NA            NA            NA
 NA            NA         0.20921         NA      NA     0.9714
NA        NA    NA        NA        NA    NA        NA        NA
V




______________________________

Ting Lei

IMSG at NOAA/NWS/NCEP/EMC

5830 University Research Ct., Cubicle 2765

College Park, MD 20740

Ting.Lei at noaa.gov <Joe.Smith at noaa.gov>

301-683-3624


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Subject: the different units for forecast and observed TMP
From: David Fillmore
Time: Fri Dec 20 09:44:04 2019

Hi Ting -
MET reads the forecast and obs units from the respective forecast and
obs files,
so an 'NA' means the units were not found in the obs files.
It is not related to any config options.
Do you know what those units are?
thanks,
David

On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 9:24 AM Ting Lei - NOAA Affiliate via RT <
met_help at ucar.edu> wrote:

>
> Fri Dec 20 09:24:31 2019: Request 93557 was acted upon.
> Transaction: Ticket created by ting.lei at noaa.gov
>        Queue: met_help
>      Subject: the different units for forecast and observed TMP
>        Owner: Nobody
>   Requestors: ting.lei at noaa.gov
>       Status: new
>  Ticket <URL:
https://rt.rap.ucar.edu/rt/Ticket/Display.html?id=93557 >
>
>
> Dear Mr. or Mrs.,
> It seems now for my point2stat results, the forecast and observation
for
> tmp are using different units.
>
> The "FCST_UNITS" is "K" while BOS_UNITS is "NA" (in red color in the
> attached example)
> I also attached the first line and second line in the following.
> Did I miss something in the configuration?
> Your help is appreciated.
> Regards,
> Ting
> ^^
> VERSION MODEL  DESC FCST_LEAD FCST_VALID_BEG  FCST_VALID_END
OBS_LEAD
> OBS_VALID_BEG   OBS_VALID_END   FCST_VAR FCST_UNITS FCST_LEV OBS_VAR
> OBS_UNITS OBS_LEV OBTYPE VX_MASK INTERP_MTHD INTERP_PNTS FCST_THRESH
> OBS_THRESH COV_THRESH ALPHA LINE_TYPE TOTAL FBAR           FBAR_NCL
> FBAR_NCU       FBAR_BCL FBAR_BCU FSTDEV         FSTDEV_NCL
FSTDEV_NCU
>   FSTDEV_BCL FSTDEV_BCU OBAR           OBAR_NCL       OBAR_NCU
> OBAR_BCL OBAR_BCU OSTDEV        OSTDEV_NCL    OSTDEV_NCU
OSTDEV_BCL
> OSTDEV_BCU PR_CORR     PR_CORR_NCL PR_CORR_NCU PR_CORR_BCL
PR_CORR_BCU
> SP_CORR KT_CORR RANKS FRANK_TIES ORANK_TIES ME             ME_NCL
> ME_NCU         ME_BCL ME_BCU ESTDEV         ESTDEV_NCL
ESTDEV_NCU
> ESTDEV_BCL ESTDEV_BCU MBIAS       MBIAS_BCL MBIAS_BCU MAE
>  MAE_BCL MAE_BCU MSE                MSE_BCL MSE_BCU BCMSE
>  BCMSE_BCL BCMSE_BCU RMSE           RMSE_BCL RMSE_BCU E10
> E10_BCL E10_BCU E25            E25_BCL E25_BCU E50
E50_BCL
> E50_BCU E75            E75_BCL E75_BCU E90            E90_BCL
E90_BCU EIQR
>           EIQR_BCL EIQR_BCU MAD            MAD_BCL MAD_BCU ANOM_CORR
> ANOM_CORR_NCL ANOM_CORR_NCU ANOM_CORR_BCL ANOM_CORR_BCU ME2
>  ME2_BCL ME2_BCU MSESS         MSESS_BCL MSESS_BCU RMSFA RMSFA_BCL
> RMSFA_BCU RMSOA RMSOA_BCL RMSOA_BCU
>
>
>
>
> V8.1.2  FV3SAR NA   000000    20191214_000000 20191214_000000 000000
> 20191213_231500 20191214_004500 TMP      K          Z2       TMP
NA
>    Z2      ONLYSF FULL    BILIN       4           NA          NA
NA
>         0.05  CNT        5267   276.89427      276.65875
277.1298
>       NA       NA     8.72123        8.55781        8.89105
NA
>       NA   277.35167      277.11074      277.5926           NA
NA
>  8.92123       8.75407       9.09494            NA         NA
0.98697
>  0.98625      0.98765           NA          NA      NA      NA     0
>    0          0    -0.45739       -0.49622       -0.41856        NA
NA
>     1.43778        1.41084        1.46578            NA         NA
> 0.99835          NA        NA     1.09136         NA      NA
> 2.27603         NA      NA         2.06682           NA        NA
> 1.50865          NA       NA     -2.15132         NA      NA
-1.18707
>       NA      NA    -0.35911         NA      NA     0.40374
NA
>  NA     1.0863          NA      NA     1.59081          NA       NA
> 0.79113         NA      NA        NA            NA            NA
>  NA            NA         0.20921         NA      NA     0.9714
> NA        NA    NA        NA        NA    NA        NA        NA
> V
>
>
>
>
> ______________________________
>
> Ting Lei
>
> IMSG at NOAA/NWS/NCEP/EMC
>
> 5830 University Research Ct., Cubicle 2765
>
> College Park, MD 20740
>
> Ting.Lei at noaa.gov <Joe.Smith at noaa.gov>
>
> 301-683-3624
>
>

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Subject: the different units for forecast and observed TMP
From: Ting Lei - NOAA Affiliate
Time: Fri Dec 20 09:52:02 2019

Hi, David,
Got it.   I will double check the Unit in the prepbufr files.
However,  it seems the numerical results are reasonable. So, I guess
the
observation is also in K. Or , at least, it was handled correctly by
MET
(by default, Met assumes the same unit ? ).
Thank you!
To me, this ticket can be closed.
Ting .
 .

______________________________

Ting Lei

IMSG at NOAA/NWS/NCEP/EMC

5830 University Research Ct., Cubicle 2765

College Park, MD 20740

Ting.Lei at noaa.gov <Joe.Smith at noaa.gov>

301-683-3624


On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 11:44 AM David Fillmore via RT
<met_help at ucar.edu>
wrote:

> Hi Ting -
> MET reads the forecast and obs units from the respective forecast
and
> obs files,
> so an 'NA' means the units were not found in the obs files.
> It is not related to any config options.
> Do you know what those units are?
> thanks,
> David
>
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 9:24 AM Ting Lei - NOAA Affiliate via RT <
> met_help at ucar.edu> wrote:
>
> >
> > Fri Dec 20 09:24:31 2019: Request 93557 was acted upon.
> > Transaction: Ticket created by ting.lei at noaa.gov
> >        Queue: met_help
> >      Subject: the different units for forecast and observed TMP
> >        Owner: Nobody
> >   Requestors: ting.lei at noaa.gov
> >       Status: new
> >  Ticket <URL:
https://rt.rap.ucar.edu/rt/Ticket/Display.html?id=93557 >
> >
> >
> > Dear Mr. or Mrs.,
> > It seems now for my point2stat results, the forecast and
observation for
> > tmp are using different units.
> >
> > The "FCST_UNITS" is "K" while BOS_UNITS is "NA" (in red color in
the
> > attached example)
> > I also attached the first line and second line in the following.
> > Did I miss something in the configuration?
> > Your help is appreciated.
> > Regards,
> > Ting
> > ^^
> > VERSION MODEL  DESC FCST_LEAD FCST_VALID_BEG  FCST_VALID_END
OBS_LEAD
> > OBS_VALID_BEG   OBS_VALID_END   FCST_VAR FCST_UNITS FCST_LEV
OBS_VAR
> > OBS_UNITS OBS_LEV OBTYPE VX_MASK INTERP_MTHD INTERP_PNTS
FCST_THRESH
> > OBS_THRESH COV_THRESH ALPHA LINE_TYPE TOTAL FBAR
FBAR_NCL
> > FBAR_NCU       FBAR_BCL FBAR_BCU FSTDEV         FSTDEV_NCL
FSTDEV_NCU
> >   FSTDEV_BCL FSTDEV_BCU OBAR           OBAR_NCL       OBAR_NCU
> > OBAR_BCL OBAR_BCU OSTDEV        OSTDEV_NCL    OSTDEV_NCU
OSTDEV_BCL
> > OSTDEV_BCU PR_CORR     PR_CORR_NCL PR_CORR_NCU PR_CORR_BCL
PR_CORR_BCU
> > SP_CORR KT_CORR RANKS FRANK_TIES ORANK_TIES ME             ME_NCL
> > ME_NCU         ME_BCL ME_BCU ESTDEV         ESTDEV_NCL
ESTDEV_NCU
> > ESTDEV_BCL ESTDEV_BCU MBIAS       MBIAS_BCL MBIAS_BCU MAE
> >  MAE_BCL MAE_BCU MSE                MSE_BCL MSE_BCU BCMSE
> >  BCMSE_BCL BCMSE_BCU RMSE           RMSE_BCL RMSE_BCU E10
> > E10_BCL E10_BCU E25            E25_BCL E25_BCU E50
E50_BCL
> > E50_BCU E75            E75_BCL E75_BCU E90            E90_BCL
E90_BCU
> EIQR
> >           EIQR_BCL EIQR_BCU MAD            MAD_BCL MAD_BCU
ANOM_CORR
> > ANOM_CORR_NCL ANOM_CORR_NCU ANOM_CORR_BCL ANOM_CORR_BCU ME2
> >  ME2_BCL ME2_BCU MSESS         MSESS_BCL MSESS_BCU RMSFA RMSFA_BCL
> > RMSFA_BCU RMSOA RMSOA_BCL RMSOA_BCU
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > V8.1.2  FV3SAR NA   000000    20191214_000000 20191214_000000
000000
> > 20191213_231500 20191214_004500 TMP      K          Z2       TMP
NA
> >    Z2      ONLYSF FULL    BILIN       4           NA          NA
>  NA
> >         0.05  CNT        5267   276.89427      276.65875
277.1298
> >       NA       NA     8.72123        8.55781        8.89105
NA
> >       NA   277.35167      277.11074      277.5926           NA
NA
> >  8.92123       8.75407       9.09494            NA         NA
0.98697
> >  0.98625      0.98765           NA          NA      NA      NA
0
> >    0          0    -0.45739       -0.49622       -0.41856
NA
>  NA
> >     1.43778        1.41084        1.46578            NA         NA
> > 0.99835          NA        NA     1.09136         NA      NA
> > 2.27603         NA      NA         2.06682           NA        NA
> > 1.50865          NA       NA     -2.15132         NA      NA
-1.18707
> >       NA      NA    -0.35911         NA      NA     0.40374
NA
> >  NA     1.0863          NA      NA     1.59081          NA
NA
> > 0.79113         NA      NA        NA            NA            NA
> >  NA            NA         0.20921         NA      NA     0.9714
> > NA        NA    NA        NA        NA    NA        NA        NA
> > V
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ______________________________
> >
> > Ting Lei
> >
> > IMSG at NOAA/NWS/NCEP/EMC
> >
> > 5830 University Research Ct., Cubicle 2765
> >
> > College Park, MD 20740
> >
> > Ting.Lei at noaa.gov <Joe.Smith at noaa.gov>
> >
> > 301-683-3624
> >
> >
>
>

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Subject: the different units for forecast and observed TMP
From: David Fillmore
Time: Fri Dec 20 11:25:41 2019

Hi Ting,
sounds good.
Let us know of any more questions as they arise.
David

On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 9:52 AM Ting Lei - NOAA Affiliate via RT <
met_help at ucar.edu> wrote:

>
> <URL: https://rt.rap.ucar.edu/rt/Ticket/Display.html?id=93557 >
>
> Hi, David,
> Got it.   I will double check the Unit in the prepbufr files.
> However,  it seems the numerical results are reasonable. So, I guess
the
> observation is also in K. Or , at least, it was handled correctly by
MET
> (by default, Met assumes the same unit ? ).
> Thank you!
> To me, this ticket can be closed.
> Ting .
>  .
>
> ______________________________
>
> Ting Lei
>
> IMSG at NOAA/NWS/NCEP/EMC
>
> 5830 University Research Ct., Cubicle 2765
>
> College Park, MD 20740
>
> Ting.Lei at noaa.gov <Joe.Smith at noaa.gov>
>
> 301-683-3624
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 11:44 AM David Fillmore via RT
<met_help at ucar.edu>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Ting -
> > MET reads the forecast and obs units from the respective forecast
and
> > obs files,
> > so an 'NA' means the units were not found in the obs files.
> > It is not related to any config options.
> > Do you know what those units are?
> > thanks,
> > David
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 9:24 AM Ting Lei - NOAA Affiliate via RT <
> > met_help at ucar.edu> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Fri Dec 20 09:24:31 2019: Request 93557 was acted upon.
> > > Transaction: Ticket created by ting.lei at noaa.gov
> > >        Queue: met_help
> > >      Subject: the different units for forecast and observed TMP
> > >        Owner: Nobody
> > >   Requestors: ting.lei at noaa.gov
> > >       Status: new
> > >  Ticket <URL:
https://rt.rap.ucar.edu/rt/Ticket/Display.html?id=93557
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Mr. or Mrs.,
> > > It seems now for my point2stat results, the forecast and
observation
> for
> > > tmp are using different units.
> > >
> > > The "FCST_UNITS" is "K" while BOS_UNITS is "NA" (in red color in
the
> > > attached example)
> > > I also attached the first line and second line in the following.
> > > Did I miss something in the configuration?
> > > Your help is appreciated.
> > > Regards,
> > > Ting
> > > ^^
> > > VERSION MODEL  DESC FCST_LEAD FCST_VALID_BEG  FCST_VALID_END
OBS_LEAD
> > > OBS_VALID_BEG   OBS_VALID_END   FCST_VAR FCST_UNITS FCST_LEV
OBS_VAR
> > > OBS_UNITS OBS_LEV OBTYPE VX_MASK INTERP_MTHD INTERP_PNTS
FCST_THRESH
> > > OBS_THRESH COV_THRESH ALPHA LINE_TYPE TOTAL FBAR
FBAR_NCL
> > > FBAR_NCU       FBAR_BCL FBAR_BCU FSTDEV         FSTDEV_NCL
>  FSTDEV_NCU
> > >   FSTDEV_BCL FSTDEV_BCU OBAR           OBAR_NCL       OBAR_NCU
> > > OBAR_BCL OBAR_BCU OSTDEV        OSTDEV_NCL    OSTDEV_NCU
OSTDEV_BCL
> > > OSTDEV_BCU PR_CORR     PR_CORR_NCL PR_CORR_NCU PR_CORR_BCL
PR_CORR_BCU
> > > SP_CORR KT_CORR RANKS FRANK_TIES ORANK_TIES ME
ME_NCL
> > > ME_NCU         ME_BCL ME_BCU ESTDEV         ESTDEV_NCL
ESTDEV_NCU
> > > ESTDEV_BCL ESTDEV_BCU MBIAS       MBIAS_BCL MBIAS_BCU MAE
> > >  MAE_BCL MAE_BCU MSE                MSE_BCL MSE_BCU BCMSE
> > >  BCMSE_BCL BCMSE_BCU RMSE           RMSE_BCL RMSE_BCU E10
> > > E10_BCL E10_BCU E25            E25_BCL E25_BCU E50
E50_BCL
> > > E50_BCU E75            E75_BCL E75_BCU E90            E90_BCL
E90_BCU
> > EIQR
> > >           EIQR_BCL EIQR_BCU MAD            MAD_BCL MAD_BCU
ANOM_CORR
> > > ANOM_CORR_NCL ANOM_CORR_NCU ANOM_CORR_BCL ANOM_CORR_BCU ME2
> > >  ME2_BCL ME2_BCU MSESS         MSESS_BCL MSESS_BCU RMSFA
RMSFA_BCL
> > > RMSFA_BCU RMSOA RMSOA_BCL RMSOA_BCU
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > V8.1.2  FV3SAR NA   000000    20191214_000000 20191214_000000
000000
> > > 20191213_231500 20191214_004500 TMP      K          Z2       TMP
NA
> > >    Z2      ONLYSF FULL    BILIN       4           NA          NA
> >  NA
> > >         0.05  CNT        5267   276.89427      276.65875
277.1298
> > >       NA       NA     8.72123        8.55781        8.89105
> NA
> > >       NA   277.35167      277.11074      277.5926           NA
NA
> > >  8.92123       8.75407       9.09494            NA         NA
0.98697
> > >  0.98625      0.98765           NA          NA      NA      NA
0
> > >    0          0    -0.45739       -0.49622       -0.41856
NA
> >  NA
> > >     1.43778        1.41084        1.46578            NA
NA
> > > 0.99835          NA        NA     1.09136         NA      NA
> > > 2.27603         NA      NA         2.06682           NA
NA
> > > 1.50865          NA       NA     -2.15132         NA      NA
> -1.18707
> > >       NA      NA    -0.35911         NA      NA     0.40374
NA
> > >  NA     1.0863          NA      NA     1.59081          NA
NA
> > > 0.79113         NA      NA        NA            NA            NA
> > >  NA            NA         0.20921         NA      NA     0.9714
> > > NA        NA    NA        NA        NA    NA        NA        NA
> > > V
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ______________________________
> > >
> > > Ting Lei
> > >
> > > IMSG at NOAA/NWS/NCEP/EMC
> > >
> > > 5830 University Research Ct., Cubicle 2765
> > >
> > > College Park, MD 20740
> > >
> > > Ting.Lei at noaa.gov <Joe.Smith at noaa.gov>
> > >
> > > 301-683-3624
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

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