[Go-essp-tech] Minutes: 1/6/10 Output Variable Telecon

[Luca Cinquini]

Thanks Brian - maybe Roy can let us know when we can harvest the final  
version of CF for CMIP5, and what URL to fetch ?
thanks, Luca

On Jan 6, 2010, at 9:31 AM, Bryan Lawrence wrote:

> Hi Luca
>
> As Alison updates CF, the updated lists go in XML to the bodc vocab  
> server, and I think he's got those in SKOS at some point. SKOS to  
> OWL has to be easier than most routes ...
>
> Cheers
> Bryan
>
> On Wednesday 06 January 2010 16:09:55 Luca Cinquini wrote:
>> Hi Sylvia,
>> 	one comment below:
>>
>> On Jan 6, 2010, at 8:47 AM, Sylvia Murphy wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>
>>> Gerry Devine and I had a call today to discuss what ESG needs to do
>>> with respect to output variables in the ESG model metadata display.
>>> Thanks Gerry for making it into the office with 12 inches of snow on
>>> the ground and more on the way!  It was a useful conversation.  Here
>>> are some salient points:
>>>
>>>
>>> a) The METAFOR questionnaire will not be collecting output variable
>>> information.
>>>
>>> b) Gerry had created a spreadsheet of variables requested by CMIP5.
>>> The first column is the name, the second column is the mindmap
>>> component this variable would most likely be associated with, and
>>> the third column is the CF standard name if it exists.
>>>
>>> c) Allision, at BADC is working on getting CF standard names for all
>>> the CMIP5 variables.  This is an ongoing process but is not  
>>> complete.
>> This is great - ESG has its own list of CF variables as an owl file,
>> but it is almost a year out of date, so we do need to convert the
>> latest list from Allison into something we can ingest into the ESG
>> triple stores, and this must be done ahead of the March release date.
>> thanks, Luca
>>>
>>> d) The spreadsheet is several months out of date.  It would take
>>> Gerry 2 working days to bring the spreadsheet up to date with
>>> respect to the mindmaps and CF variables.
>>>
>>> e) There are over 800 variables in the spreadsheet
>>>
>>>
>>> QUESTION:
>>>
>>> ** Since this information is not in the questionnaire, do we still
>>> want to pursue trying to get it into the ESG display?  **
>>>
>>> The information is not actual output variables but requested
>>> variables.  They may match  what the model is doing or they may
>>> not.  The variables are also subjectively tied to a particular
>>> component in the mindmaps, but could in reality be tied to another
>>> component in the model.
>>>
>>> My personal opinion:  Since this information is not actually factual
>>> for the model component it would be displayed with AND the factual
>>> information will be available in ESGs dataset display,  this list of
>>> requested CMIP5 variables has limited utility in the ESG model
>>> metadata display.
>>>
>>>
>>> Everyone please chime in.  Further discussions and actions will be
>>> required if this needs to be pressed further.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Sylvia
>>> ***********************************
>>> Sylvia Murphy
>>> sylvia.murphy at noaa.gov
>>> 303-497-7753
>>>
>>>
>>>
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