[Go-essp-tech] Minutes: 1/6/10 Output Variable Telecon

Bryan Lawrence bryan.lawrence at stfc.ac.uk
Wed Jan 6 09:31:10 MST 2010


Hi Luca

As Alison updates CF, the updated lists go in XML to the bodc vocab server, and I think he's got those in SKOS at some point. SKOS to OWL has to be easier than most routes ...

Cheers
Bryan

On Wednesday 06 January 2010 16:09:55 Luca Cinquini wrote:
> Hi Sylvia,
> 	one comment below:
> 
> On Jan 6, 2010, at 8:47 AM, Sylvia Murphy wrote:
> 
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > Gerry Devine and I had a call today to discuss what ESG needs to do  
> > with respect to output variables in the ESG model metadata display.   
> > Thanks Gerry for making it into the office with 12 inches of snow on  
> > the ground and more on the way!  It was a useful conversation.  Here  
> > are some salient points:
> >
> >
> > a) The METAFOR questionnaire will not be collecting output variable  
> > information.
> >
> > b) Gerry had created a spreadsheet of variables requested by CMIP5.   
> > The first column is the name, the second column is the mindmap  
> > component this variable would most likely be associated with, and  
> > the third column is the CF standard name if it exists.
> >
> > c) Allision, at BADC is working on getting CF standard names for all  
> > the CMIP5 variables.  This is an ongoing process but is not complete.
> This is great - ESG has its own list of CF variables as an owl file,  
> but it is almost a year out of date, so we do need to convert the  
> latest list from Allison into something we can ingest into the ESG  
> triple stores, and this must be done ahead of the March release date.
> thanks, Luca
> >
> > d) The spreadsheet is several months out of date.  It would take  
> > Gerry 2 working days to bring the spreadsheet up to date with  
> > respect to the mindmaps and CF variables.
> >
> > e) There are over 800 variables in the spreadsheet
> >
> >
> > QUESTION:
> >
> > ** Since this information is not in the questionnaire, do we still  
> > want to pursue trying to get it into the ESG display?  **
> >
> > The information is not actual output variables but requested  
> > variables.  They may match  what the model is doing or they may  
> > not.  The variables are also subjectively tied to a particular  
> > component in the mindmaps, but could in reality be tied to another  
> > component in the model.
> >
> > My personal opinion:  Since this information is not actually factual  
> > for the model component it would be displayed with AND the factual  
> > information will be available in ESGs dataset display,  this list of  
> > requested CMIP5 variables has limited utility in the ESG model  
> > metadata display.
> >
> >
> > Everyone please chime in.  Further discussions and actions will be  
> > required if this needs to be pressed further.
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Sylvia
> > ***********************************
> > Sylvia Murphy
> > sylvia.murphy at noaa.gov
> > 303-497-7753
> >
> >
> >
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