[Met_help] [rt.rap.ucar.edu #101781] History for inquire about variables in NHC's TC stats v.s. METplus TC stats

Tue Oct 19 09:36:13 MDT 2021

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Hi,

My name is Yan, and I am recently working on the comparison between the TC
products of NHC and METplus. Here is the list I made:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1th3Ix71dUhXHWc8jvxMIkF6hAQSK44xAhnNYNgVuXDM/edit#gid=0

The yellow columns are NHC's TC variables, and the green columns are
METplus's TC variables. Compared to NHC, in METplus some variables are the
same or can be easily calculated. However, some variables are non-existent
in METplus. For example, bias errors (kt), minimum center pressure bias
(hPa), intensity relative skill (%) relative to model #1/2/3/4/5, track
forecast skill (%) ,track standard deviation (nm), intensity FSP errors
(%), etc.

I wonder if we can plot the above variables using METplus? My understanding
is that, in METplus, as long as the variables exist in tc_pairs output
file, we can use those variables and plot the figures. Otherwise there is
no way to plot the variables. Is my understanding correct? Or if there are
other ways to plot those variables (generated by NHC but not currently
exist in METplus)?

Many thanks.
Best,
Yan

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Subject: inquire about variables in NHC's TC stats v.s. METplus TC stats
From: Julie Prestopnik
Time: Tue Oct 19 09:26:21 2021

Hi Yan.

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Thanks!

Julie

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On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 10:35 AM Yan Jin - NOAA Affiliate via RT <
met_help at ucar.edu> wrote:

>
> Mon Oct 18 10:35:57 2021: Request 101781 was acted upon.
> Transaction: Ticket created by yan.jin at noaa.gov
>        Queue: met_help
>      Subject: inquire about variables in NHC's TC stats v.s. METplus
TC
> stats
>        Owner: Nobody
>   Requestors: yan.jin at noaa.gov
>       Status: new
>  Ticket <URL:
https://rt.rap.ucar.edu/rt/Ticket/Display.html?id=101781 >
>
>
> Hi,
>
> My name is Yan, and I am recently working on the comparison between
the TC
> products of NHC and METplus. Here is the list I made:
>
>
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1th3Ix71dUhXHWc8jvxMIkF6hAQSK44xAhnNYNgVuXDM/edit#gid=0
>
> The yellow columns are NHC's TC variables, and the green columns are
> METplus's TC variables. Compared to NHC, in METplus some variables
are the
> same or can be easily calculated. However, some variables are non-
existent
> in METplus. For example, bias errors (kt), minimum center pressure
bias
> (hPa), intensity relative skill (%) relative to model #1/2/3/4/5,
track
> forecast skill (%) ,track standard deviation (nm), intensity FSP
errors
> (%), etc.
>
> I wonder if we can plot the above variables using METplus? My
understanding
> is that, in METplus, as long as the variables exist in tc_pairs
output
> file, we can use those variables and plot the figures. Otherwise
there is
> no way to plot the variables. Is my understanding correct? Or if
there are
> other ways to plot those variables (generated by NHC but not
currently
> exist in METplus)?
>
> Many thanks.
> Best,
> Yan
>
>

--
Julie Prestopnik (she/her)
Software Engineer
National Center for Atmospheric Research
Research Applications Laboratory
Email: jpresto at ucar.edu

My working day may not be your working day.  Please do not feel
obliged to
reply to this email outside of your normal working hours.

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Subject: inquire about variables in NHC's TC stats v.s. METplus TC stats
From: Yan Jin - NOAA Affiliate
Time: Tue Oct 19 09:34:38 2021

Thanks Julie, I have posted the question on the Github Discussion
underting
"incoming" category.

Best,
Yan

On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 11:28 AM Julie Prestopnik via RT
<met_help at ucar.edu>
wrote:

> Hi Yan.
>
> We switched from providing support through this email address to
providing
> support through GitHub Discussions. You will need to create a free
GitHub
> account if you don’t have one already and post your questions to the
> METplus Components Discussion Forum:
>
> https://github.com/dtcenter/METplus/discussions/new
>
> Thanks!
>
> Julie
>
> ***** ALERT: THIS E-MAIL ADDRESS IS NO LONGER IN USE FOR SUPPORT OF
THE
> METPLUS VERIFICATION SYSTEM.  WE ARE NO LONGER SUPPORTING NEW
QUESTIONS OR
> MONITORING THIS EMAIL.
>
> PLEASE CREATE A FREE GITHUB ACCOUNT AND POST YOUR QUESTIONS TO THE
METPLUS
> COMPONENTS DISCUSSION FORUM AT
> https://github.com/dtcenter/METplus/discussions/new. FOR MORE
INFORMATION,
> SEE OUR WELCOME TO THE METPLUS COMPONENTS DISCUSSIONS POST AT
> https://github.com/dtcenter/METplus/discussions/939.
> *****
>
> On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 10:35 AM Yan Jin - NOAA Affiliate via RT <
> met_help at ucar.edu> wrote:
>
> >
> > Mon Oct 18 10:35:57 2021: Request 101781 was acted upon.
> > Transaction: Ticket created by yan.jin at noaa.gov
> >        Queue: met_help
> >      Subject: inquire about variables in NHC's TC stats v.s.
METplus TC
> > stats
> >        Owner: Nobody
> >   Requestors: yan.jin at noaa.gov
> >       Status: new
> >  Ticket <URL:
https://rt.rap.ucar.edu/rt/Ticket/Display.html?id=101781 >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > My name is Yan, and I am recently working on the comparison
between the
> TC
> > products of NHC and METplus. Here is the list I made:
> >
> >
>
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1th3Ix71dUhXHWc8jvxMIkF6hAQSK44xAhnNYNgVuXDM/edit#gid=0
> >
> > The yellow columns are NHC's TC variables, and the green columns
are
> > METplus's TC variables. Compared to NHC, in METplus some variables
are
> the
> > same or can be easily calculated. However, some variables are
> non-existent
> > in METplus. For example, bias errors (kt), minimum center pressure
bias
> > (hPa), intensity relative skill (%) relative to model #1/2/3/4/5,
track
> > forecast skill (%) ,track standard deviation (nm), intensity FSP
errors
> > (%), etc.
> >
> > I wonder if we can plot the above variables using METplus? My
> understanding
> > is that, in METplus, as long as the variables exist in tc_pairs
output
> > file, we can use those variables and plot the figures. Otherwise
there is
> > no way to plot the variables. Is my understanding correct? Or if
there
> are
> > other ways to plot those variables (generated by NHC but not
currently
> > exist in METplus)?
> >
> > Many thanks.
> > Best,
> > Yan
> >
> >
>
> --
> Julie Prestopnik (she/her)
> Software Engineer
> National Center for Atmospheric Research
> Research Applications Laboratory
> Email: jpresto at ucar.edu
>
> My working day may not be your working day.  Please do not feel
obliged to
> reply to this email outside of your normal working hours.
>

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