[Met_help] [rt.rap.ucar.edu #97284] History for Can not make change with X label
John Halley Gotway via RT
met_help at ucar.edu
Fri Oct 30 12:30:35 MDT 2020
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Hello,
I am working on creating a performance diagram and it seems I can not
change the location/size of the X-label. I tried to move the X-abel
(success rate) a little bit up to the plot , but no matter which size and
number I put for "Perpendicular offset" under X1, there is no change with
the label at all. Please see the attachment.
Thank you.
binyu
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Subject: Can not make change with X label
From: John Halley Gotway
Time: Fri Oct 30 09:27:12 2020
Binyu,
I agree. It looks like those label formatting options are not working
for
the performance diagram. We are currently in the process of migrating
METviewer over from plotting in R to Python. I'll forward this email
to
Tatiana and ask her to make sure that these formatting options do work
in
the python implementation.
For now, I have a suggestion for you to try. The problem here is that
we
have too much content for the bottom margin, and the words are
overlapping.
Under the METviewer formatting tab, please try editing the "Plot
formatting
-> Margins" option. Change the first number from 8 to 16, like I've
done in
this screenshot:
[image: Screen Shot 2020-10-30 at 9.22.15 AM.png]
These 4 numbers define the margins outside of the plot in the order
of:
bottom, left, top, right
And I tested to confirm that they do indeed work for the performance
diagram template.
A second option is adjusting the location of the legend box. Under the
"Legend & Caption" tab, see the "Legend formatting" options. For
example,
in this screenshot, I've adjusted the position from 0, -0.25 to 0,
-0.50.
And this also works for the performance diagram template. I honestly
don't
know what those units are, but changing them does have an impact.
[image: Screen Shot 2020-10-30 at 9.26.39 AM.png]
Thanks,
John
On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 8:43 AM binyu.wang at noaa.gov via RT <
met_help at ucar.edu> wrote:
>
> Fri Oct 30 08:43:12 2020: Request 97284 was acted upon.
> Transaction: Ticket created by binyu.wang at noaa.gov
> Queue: met_help
> Subject: Can not make change with X label
> Owner: Nobody
> Requestors: binyu.wang at noaa.gov
> Status: new
> Ticket <URL:
https://rt.rap.ucar.edu/rt/Ticket/Display.html?id=97284 >
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I am working on creating a performance diagram and it seems I can
not
> change the location/size of the X-label. I tried to move the X-abel
> (success rate) a little bit up to the plot , but no matter which
size and
> number I put for "Perpendicular offset" under X1, there is no change
with
> the label at all. Please see the attachment.
>
>
> Thank you.
> binyu
>
>
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Subject: Can not make change with X label
From: binyu.wang at noaa.gov
Time: Fri Oct 30 09:49:30 2020
Thank you, John. Yes I did try the second method and it worked.
I had asked another question but nobody answered yet, maybe you can
answer
them as well:
1. I can create the performance plot using either "summary->CTC" or
"aggregation statistics -> CTC", and the plots are very similar. It
looks
like they are just two different ways of making plots. But which one
is
better? How to differentiate them? I saw the lines below from one PPT
tutorial, but still not sure which one should be used?
Summary – scores computed per each combination of fixed values and
independent variable then mean or median taken
Aggregate statistics – accumulates SL1L2 lines or CTC counts prior
to
calculating the statistic
2. I know how to remove the connected line by setting "line width" to
"NA",
is there a way to remove the lines for all members at once? I have too
many
models and I can only reach those listed at the top, and I can access
those
listed at the end. So I can not change them at all.
Binyu
On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 11:27 AM John Halley Gotway via RT <
met_help at ucar.edu> wrote:
> Binyu,
>
> I agree. It looks like those label formatting options are not
working for
> the performance diagram. We are currently in the process of
migrating
> METviewer over from plotting in R to Python. I'll forward this email
to
> Tatiana and ask her to make sure that these formatting options do
work in
> the python implementation.
>
> For now, I have a suggestion for you to try. The problem here is
that we
> have too much content for the bottom margin, and the words are
overlapping.
> Under the METviewer formatting tab, please try editing the "Plot
formatting
> -> Margins" option. Change the first number from 8 to 16, like I've
done in
> this screenshot:
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2020-10-30 at 9.22.15 AM.png]
>
> These 4 numbers define the margins outside of the plot in the order
of:
> bottom, left, top, right
> And I tested to confirm that they do indeed work for the performance
> diagram template.
>
> A second option is adjusting the location of the legend box. Under
the
> "Legend & Caption" tab, see the "Legend formatting" options. For
example,
> in this screenshot, I've adjusted the position from 0, -0.25 to 0,
-0.50.
> And this also works for the performance diagram template. I honestly
don't
> know what those units are, but changing them does have an impact.
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2020-10-30 at 9.26.39 AM.png]
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 8:43 AM binyu.wang at noaa.gov via RT <
> met_help at ucar.edu> wrote:
>
> >
> > Fri Oct 30 08:43:12 2020: Request 97284 was acted upon.
> > Transaction: Ticket created by binyu.wang at noaa.gov
> > Queue: met_help
> > Subject: Can not make change with X label
> > Owner: Nobody
> > Requestors: binyu.wang at noaa.gov
> > Status: new
> > Ticket <URL:
https://rt.rap.ucar.edu/rt/Ticket/Display.html?id=97284 >
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am working on creating a performance diagram and it seems I can
not
> > change the location/size of the X-label. I tried to move the X-
abel
> > (success rate) a little bit up to the plot , but no matter which
size and
> > number I put for "Perpendicular offset" under X1, there is no
change with
> > the label at all. Please see the attachment.
> >
> >
> > Thank you.
> > binyu
> >
> >
>
>
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Subject: Can not make change with X label
From: Minna Win
Time: Fri Oct 30 10:04:35 2020
Hello Binyu,
That support did not make it in time to get incorporated into the
beta1
release for METplotpy. It is currently undergoing testing and should
be
available in the beta2 release (11/30/2020).
Regards,
Minna
---------------
Minna Win
National Center for Atmospheric Research
Developmental Testbed Center
Phone: 303-497-8423
Fax: 303-497-8401
---------------
Pronouns: she/her
On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 8:43 AM binyu.wang at noaa.gov via RT <
met_help at ucar.edu> wrote:
>
> Fri Oct 30 08:43:12 2020: Request 97284 was acted upon.
> Transaction: Ticket created by binyu.wang at noaa.gov
> Queue: met_help
> Subject: Can not make change with X label
> Owner: Nobody
> Requestors: binyu.wang at noaa.gov
> Status: new
> Ticket <URL:
https://rt.rap.ucar.edu/rt/Ticket/Display.html?id=97284 >
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I am working on creating a performance diagram and it seems I can
not
> change the location/size of the X-label. I tried to move the X-abel
> (success rate) a little bit up to the plot , but no matter which
size and
> number I put for "Perpendicular offset" under X1, there is no change
with
> the label at all. Please see the attachment.
>
>
> Thank you.
> binyu
>
>
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Subject: Can not make change with X label
From: John Halley Gotway
Time: Fri Oct 30 10:30:55 2020
Binyu,
I'm glad to hear that you were able to get the legend sorted out.
(1) Regarding summary vs aggregation...
In general I'd recommend using the aggregation method over summary.
With
summary, METviewer computes and plots the mean (or median) of the
"daily"
scores. With aggregation, METviewer first sums up all the input
contingency
tables and then computes a single statistics from the aggregated
table.
Typically the results of the 2 methods are pretty similar. But
problems can
arise with summary. Some contingency table statistics just aren't
defined
when there are no events. So the statistic may be NA for some of the
cases
if using a relatively high threshold. And then METviewer only computes
the
mean of the non-NA statistics. Using the aggregation method avoids
problems
like that.
(2) I see that you're having trouble with the METviewer GUI because
you
have so many lines. I agree, while GUI's are nice, sometimes they get
in
the way. Here's something you could try. Reset the line width to NA
for
only the first line. Make the plot with the GUI. Then click on the XML
tab
in the GUI and save it to your local machine. Next either manually
edit
that XML file or use "sed" to reset all the widths to NA, using the
formatting of the first line for reference. Be sure not to change
anything
else in the XML file. Save that file. Then click on "Load XML" button
in
the top-right corner of the METviewer GUI, navigate to your modified
XML
file, and upload it.
John
On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 10:04 AM Minna Win via RT <met_help at ucar.edu>
wrote:
>
> <URL: https://rt.rap.ucar.edu/rt/Ticket/Display.html?id=97284 >
>
> Hello Binyu,
>
> That support did not make it in time to get incorporated into the
beta1
> release for METplotpy. It is currently undergoing testing and
should be
> available in the beta2 release (11/30/2020).
>
> Regards,
> Minna
> ---------------
> Minna Win
> National Center for Atmospheric Research
> Developmental Testbed Center
> Phone: 303-497-8423
> Fax: 303-497-8401
> ---------------
> Pronouns: she/her
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 8:43 AM binyu.wang at noaa.gov via RT <
> met_help at ucar.edu> wrote:
>
> >
> > Fri Oct 30 08:43:12 2020: Request 97284 was acted upon.
> > Transaction: Ticket created by binyu.wang at noaa.gov
> > Queue: met_help
> > Subject: Can not make change with X label
> > Owner: Nobody
> > Requestors: binyu.wang at noaa.gov
> > Status: new
> > Ticket <URL:
https://rt.rap.ucar.edu/rt/Ticket/Display.html?id=97284 >
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am working on creating a performance diagram and it seems I can
not
> > change the location/size of the X-label. I tried to move the X-
abel
> > (success rate) a little bit up to the plot , but no matter which
size and
> > number I put for "Perpendicular offset" under X1, there is no
change with
> > the label at all. Please see the attachment.
> >
> >
> > Thank you.
> > binyu
> >
> >
>
>
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Subject: Can not make change with X label
From: binyu.wang at noaa.gov
Time: Fri Oct 30 11:28:04 2020
It works, thank you, John.
On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 12:31 PM John Halley Gotway via RT <
met_help at ucar.edu> wrote:
> Binyu,
>
> I'm glad to hear that you were able to get the legend sorted out.
>
> (1) Regarding summary vs aggregation...
>
> In general I'd recommend using the aggregation method over summary.
With
> summary, METviewer computes and plots the mean (or median) of the
"daily"
> scores. With aggregation, METviewer first sums up all the input
contingency
> tables and then computes a single statistics from the aggregated
table.
> Typically the results of the 2 methods are pretty similar. But
problems can
> arise with summary. Some contingency table statistics just aren't
defined
> when there are no events. So the statistic may be NA for some of the
cases
> if using a relatively high threshold. And then METviewer only
computes the
> mean of the non-NA statistics. Using the aggregation method avoids
problems
> like that.
>
> (2) I see that you're having trouble with the METviewer GUI because
you
> have so many lines. I agree, while GUI's are nice, sometimes they
get in
> the way. Here's something you could try. Reset the line width to NA
for
> only the first line. Make the plot with the GUI. Then click on the
XML tab
> in the GUI and save it to your local machine. Next either manually
edit
> that XML file or use "sed" to reset all the widths to NA, using the
> formatting of the first line for reference. Be sure not to change
anything
> else in the XML file. Save that file. Then click on "Load XML"
button in
> the top-right corner of the METviewer GUI, navigate to your modified
XML
> file, and upload it.
>
> John
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 10:04 AM Minna Win via RT
<met_help at ucar.edu>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > <URL: https://rt.rap.ucar.edu/rt/Ticket/Display.html?id=97284 >
> >
> > Hello Binyu,
> >
> > That support did not make it in time to get incorporated into the
beta1
> > release for METplotpy. It is currently undergoing testing and
should be
> > available in the beta2 release (11/30/2020).
> >
> > Regards,
> > Minna
> > ---------------
> > Minna Win
> > National Center for Atmospheric Research
> > Developmental Testbed Center
> > Phone: 303-497-8423
> > Fax: 303-497-8401
> > ---------------
> > Pronouns: she/her
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 8:43 AM binyu.wang at noaa.gov via RT <
> > met_help at ucar.edu> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Fri Oct 30 08:43:12 2020: Request 97284 was acted upon.
> > > Transaction: Ticket created by binyu.wang at noaa.gov
> > > Queue: met_help
> > > Subject: Can not make change with X label
> > > Owner: Nobody
> > > Requestors: binyu.wang at noaa.gov
> > > Status: new
> > > Ticket <URL:
https://rt.rap.ucar.edu/rt/Ticket/Display.html?id=97284
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I am working on creating a performance diagram and it seems I
can not
> > > change the location/size of the X-label. I tried to move the X-
abel
> > > (success rate) a little bit up to the plot , but no matter which
size
> and
> > > number I put for "Perpendicular offset" under X1, there is no
change
> with
> > > the label at all. Please see the attachment.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > > binyu
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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Subject: Can not make change with X label
From: binyu.wang at noaa.gov
Time: Fri Oct 30 11:28:05 2020
On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 1:27 PM Binyu Wang - NOAA Affiliate <
binyu.wang at noaa.gov> wrote:
> It works, thank you, John.
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 12:31 PM John Halley Gotway via RT <
> met_help at ucar.edu> wrote:
>
>> Binyu,
>>
>> I'm glad to hear that you were able to get the legend sorted out.
>>
>> (1) Regarding summary vs aggregation...
>>
>> In general I'd recommend using the aggregation method over summary.
With
>> summary, METviewer computes and plots the mean (or median) of the
"daily"
>> scores. With aggregation, METviewer first sums up all the input
>> contingency
>> tables and then computes a single statistics from the aggregated
table.
>> Typically the results of the 2 methods are pretty similar. But
problems
>> can
>> arise with summary. Some contingency table statistics just aren't
defined
>> when there are no events. So the statistic may be NA for some of
the cases
>> if using a relatively high threshold. And then METviewer only
computes the
>> mean of the non-NA statistics. Using the aggregation method avoids
>> problems
>> like that.
>>
>> (2) I see that you're having trouble with the METviewer GUI because
you
>> have so many lines. I agree, while GUI's are nice, sometimes they
get in
>> the way. Here's something you could try. Reset the line width to NA
for
>> only the first line. Make the plot with the GUI. Then click on the
XML tab
>> in the GUI and save it to your local machine. Next either manually
edit
>> that XML file or use "sed" to reset all the widths to NA, using the
>> formatting of the first line for reference. Be sure not to change
anything
>> else in the XML file. Save that file. Then click on "Load XML"
button in
>> the top-right corner of the METviewer GUI, navigate to your
modified XML
>> file, and upload it.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 10:04 AM Minna Win via RT
<met_help at ucar.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > <URL: https://rt.rap.ucar.edu/rt/Ticket/Display.html?id=97284 >
>> >
>> > Hello Binyu,
>> >
>> > That support did not make it in time to get incorporated into the
beta1
>> > release for METplotpy. It is currently undergoing testing and
should be
>> > available in the beta2 release (11/30/2020).
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Minna
>> > ---------------
>> > Minna Win
>> > National Center for Atmospheric Research
>> > Developmental Testbed Center
>> > Phone: 303-497-8423
>> > Fax: 303-497-8401
>> > ---------------
>> > Pronouns: she/her
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 8:43 AM binyu.wang at noaa.gov via RT <
>> > met_help at ucar.edu> wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Fri Oct 30 08:43:12 2020: Request 97284 was acted upon.
>> > > Transaction: Ticket created by binyu.wang at noaa.gov
>> > > Queue: met_help
>> > > Subject: Can not make change with X label
>> > > Owner: Nobody
>> > > Requestors: binyu.wang at noaa.gov
>> > > Status: new
>> > > Ticket <URL:
https://rt.rap.ucar.edu/rt/Ticket/Display.html?id=97284
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Hello,
>> > >
>> > > I am working on creating a performance diagram and it seems I
can not
>> > > change the location/size of the X-label. I tried to move the X-
abel
>> > > (success rate) a little bit up to the plot , but no matter
which size
>> and
>> > > number I put for "Perpendicular offset" under X1, there is no
change
>> with
>> > > the label at all. Please see the attachment.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Thank you.
>> > > binyu
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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