[Met_help] [rt.rap.ucar.edu #95027] History for unexpected xlab and ylab from Metviewer batch plots
Tatiana Burek via RT
met_help at ucar.edu
Fri Apr 24 09:17:47 MDT 2020
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Initial Request
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To Whom It may Concern:
I am using the AWS batch mode to generate statistics graphics. The example
xml file is at
https://www.emc.ncep.noaa.gov/mmb/hchuang/transfer/plot_cmaqv5para8_aod_performance.xml
and the figure produced is at
https://www.emc.ncep.noaa.gov/mmb/hchuang/transfer/CONUS_CMAQV5PARA8_AOD_PERFORMANCE_DAY1_06Z_ALLQC_202003.png
Even though I did not specify xlab and y1lab, or y2lab
<title>
MET_CMAQV5PARA8_AOD_PERFORMANCE_Diagram_DAY2_12Z - SWD
</title>
<x_label/>
<y1_label/>
<y2_label/>
There is the text of "probability of detection" for ylab and "success
ratio" for xlab. Are they both default values in left "null"?
I know ylab is PODY, but what does the xlab "success ratio" means? When
working on Metviewer on AWS web site, in the R data area I also see data
for FAR. Is it the false alarm rate ?
Thank you.
Ho-Chun Huang
IMSG at NOAA/NWS/NCEP/EMC
5830 University Research Ct., Rm. 2792
College Park, MD 20740
Ho-Chun.Huang at noaa.gov <Joe.Smith at noaa.gov>
301-683-3958
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Subject: unexpected xlab and ylab from Metviewer batch plots
From: Minna Win
Time: Thu Apr 23 15:03:18 2020
Hello Ho-Chun,
It looks like you have some questions pertaining to your output from
METviewer. I am assigning this ticket to our METviewer expert,
Tatiana
Burek. Please allow a few days for a response.
Regards,
Minna
---------------
Minna Win
National Center for Atmospheric Research
Developmental Testbed Center
Phone: 303-497-8423
Fax: 303-497-8401
On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 2:05 PM Ho-Chun Huang - NOAA Affiliate via RT
<
met_help at ucar.edu> wrote:
>
> Thu Apr 23 14:05:05 2020: Request 95027 was acted upon.
> Transaction: Ticket created by ho-chun.huang at noaa.gov
> Queue: met_help
> Subject: unexpected xlab and ylab from Metviewer batch plots
> Owner: Nobody
> Requestors: ho-chun.huang at noaa.gov
> Status: new
> Ticket <URL:
https://rt.rap.ucar.edu/rt/Ticket/Display.html?id=95027 >
>
>
> To Whom It may Concern:
>
> I am using the AWS batch mode to generate statistics graphics. The
example
> xml file is at
>
>
https://www.emc.ncep.noaa.gov/mmb/hchuang/transfer/plot_cmaqv5para8_aod_performance.xml
>
> and the figure produced is at
>
>
https://www.emc.ncep.noaa.gov/mmb/hchuang/transfer/CONUS_CMAQV5PARA8_AOD_PERFORMANCE_DAY1_06Z_ALLQC_202003.png
>
> Even though I did not specify xlab and y1lab, or y2lab
> <title>
> MET_CMAQV5PARA8_AOD_PERFORMANCE_Diagram_DAY2_12Z - SWD
> </title>
> <x_label/>
> <y1_label/>
> <y2_label/>
>
> There is the text of "probability of detection" for ylab and
"success
> ratio" for xlab. Are they both default values in left "null"?
>
> I know ylab is PODY, but what does the xlab "success ratio" means?
When
> working on Metviewer on AWS web site, in the R data area I also see
data
> for FAR. Is it the false alarm rate ?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Ho-Chun Huang
>
> IMSG at NOAA/NWS/NCEP/EMC
>
> 5830 University Research Ct., Rm. 2792
>
> College Park, MD 20740
>
> Ho-Chun.Huang at noaa.gov <Joe.Smith at noaa.gov>
>
> 301-683-3958
>
>
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Subject: unexpected xlab and ylab from Metviewer batch plots
From: Minna Win
Time: Thu Apr 23 15:37:05 2020
Hi Ho-Chun,
For the second part of your question, which is verification-specific,
I'll
refer this to Eric Gilleland, our resident statistician. Please allow
a
few days for a response.
Regards,
Minna
---------------
Minna Win
National Center for Atmospheric Research
Developmental Testbed Center
Phone: 303-497-8423
Fax: 303-497-8401
On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 2:05 PM Ho-Chun Huang - NOAA Affiliate via RT
<
met_help at ucar.edu> wrote:
>
> Thu Apr 23 14:05:05 2020: Request 95027 was acted upon.
> Transaction: Ticket created by ho-chun.huang at noaa.gov
> Queue: met_help
> Subject: unexpected xlab and ylab from Metviewer batch plots
> Owner: Nobody
> Requestors: ho-chun.huang at noaa.gov
> Status: new
> Ticket <URL:
https://rt.rap.ucar.edu/rt/Ticket/Display.html?id=95027 >
>
>
> To Whom It may Concern:
>
> I am using the AWS batch mode to generate statistics graphics. The
example
> xml file is at
>
>
https://www.emc.ncep.noaa.gov/mmb/hchuang/transfer/plot_cmaqv5para8_aod_performance.xml
>
> and the figure produced is at
>
>
https://www.emc.ncep.noaa.gov/mmb/hchuang/transfer/CONUS_CMAQV5PARA8_AOD_PERFORMANCE_DAY1_06Z_ALLQC_202003.png
>
> Even though I did not specify xlab and y1lab, or y2lab
> <title>
> MET_CMAQV5PARA8_AOD_PERFORMANCE_Diagram_DAY2_12Z - SWD
> </title>
> <x_label/>
> <y1_label/>
> <y2_label/>
>
> There is the text of "probability of detection" for ylab and
"success
> ratio" for xlab. Are they both default values in left "null"?
>
> I know ylab is PODY, but what does the xlab "success ratio" means?
When
> working on Metviewer on AWS web site, in the R data area I also see
data
> for FAR. Is it the false alarm rate ?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Ho-Chun Huang
>
> IMSG at NOAA/NWS/NCEP/EMC
>
> 5830 University Research Ct., Rm. 2792
>
> College Park, MD 20740
>
> Ho-Chun.Huang at noaa.gov <Joe.Smith at noaa.gov>
>
> 301-683-3958
>
>
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Subject: unexpected xlab and ylab from Metviewer batch plots
From: Tara Jensen
Time: Thu Apr 23 16:43:27 2020
Ho-Chun,
FAR stands for False Alarm Ratio - which is false alarms/(hits + false
alarms). Success Ratio is 1-FAR to make the statistic orientated in a
way
to make the Performance Diagram work. That's why in the R data it
has FAR
rather than Success Ratio. If you want to read more about it, an
easy
online options is the *WWRP/WGNE Joint Working Group on Forecast
Verification Research*
<http://www.wmo.int/pages/prog/arep/wwrp/new/Forecast_Verification.html>
page at: https://www.cawcr.gov.au/projects/verification/
Performance Diagrams synthesize the relationship between 4 categorical
statistics. PODY, FAR, Critical Success Index (CSI), and Frequency
Bias
(FBIAS). The least optimal values are in lower left corner. The
optimal
score is in the upper right corner. A good reference for Performance
Diagrams is:
Roebber, P.J., 2009: Visualizing multiple measures of forecast
quality. *Weather
and Forecasting*, *24*, 601-608.
Let us know if this makes sense or if you need further clarification.
Cheers, Tara
On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 3:37 PM Minna Win via RT <met_help at ucar.edu>
wrote:
>
> <URL: https://rt.rap.ucar.edu/rt/Ticket/Display.html?id=95027 >
>
> Hi Ho-Chun,
>
> For the second part of your question, which is verification-
specific, I'll
> refer this to Eric Gilleland, our resident statistician. Please
allow a
> few days for a response.
>
> Regards,
> Minna
> ---------------
> Minna Win
> National Center for Atmospheric Research
> Developmental Testbed Center
> Phone: 303-497-8423
> Fax: 303-497-8401
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 2:05 PM Ho-Chun Huang - NOAA Affiliate via
RT <
> met_help at ucar.edu> wrote:
>
> >
> > Thu Apr 23 14:05:05 2020: Request 95027 was acted upon.
> > Transaction: Ticket created by ho-chun.huang at noaa.gov
> > Queue: met_help
> > Subject: unexpected xlab and ylab from Metviewer batch plots
> > Owner: Nobody
> > Requestors: ho-chun.huang at noaa.gov
> > Status: new
> > Ticket <URL:
https://rt.rap.ucar.edu/rt/Ticket/Display.html?id=95027 >
> >
> >
> > To Whom It may Concern:
> >
> > I am using the AWS batch mode to generate statistics graphics.
The
> example
> > xml file is at
> >
> >
>
https://www.emc.ncep.noaa.gov/mmb/hchuang/transfer/plot_cmaqv5para8_aod_performance.xml
> >
> > and the figure produced is at
> >
> >
>
https://www.emc.ncep.noaa.gov/mmb/hchuang/transfer/CONUS_CMAQV5PARA8_AOD_PERFORMANCE_DAY1_06Z_ALLQC_202003.png
> >
> > Even though I did not specify xlab and y1lab, or y2lab
> > <title>
> > MET_CMAQV5PARA8_AOD_PERFORMANCE_Diagram_DAY2_12Z - SWD
> > </title>
> > <x_label/>
> > <y1_label/>
> > <y2_label/>
> >
> > There is the text of "probability of detection" for ylab and
"success
> > ratio" for xlab. Are they both default values in left "null"?
> >
> > I know ylab is PODY, but what does the xlab "success ratio" means?
When
> > working on Metviewer on AWS web site, in the R data area I also
see data
> > for FAR. Is it the false alarm rate ?
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Ho-Chun Huang
> >
> > IMSG at NOAA/NWS/NCEP/EMC
> >
> > 5830 University Research Ct., Rm. 2792
> >
> > College Park, MD 20740
> >
> > Ho-Chun.Huang at noaa.gov <Joe.Smith at noaa.gov>
> >
> > 301-683-3958
> >
> >
>
>
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Tara Jensen
Project Manager II
NCAR RAL and DTC
PO Box 3000, Boulder, Colorado 80307 USA
+1 303-497-8479 jensen at ucar.edu
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Subject: unexpected xlab and ylab from Metviewer batch plots
From: Tatiana Burek
Time: Fri Apr 24 08:35:57 2020
Ho-Chun,
I deployed the same fix for the Performance diagram to AWS batch app
as I did for the AWS web application. Now the axis labels should work
as expected:
- if x_label is empty - METviewer puts 'Success Ratio' as x-axis name.
METviewer uses user input otherwise
- if y_label is empty - METviewer puts 'Probability of Detection' as
y-axis name. METviewer uses user input otherwise
I rerun your XML and got the attached image.
I see that the x-axis name and the caption are in the same spot. I
would suggest to use the caption text as x_label. Or if you need
x_label, you could move the caption and the legend a few pixels down.
Let me know if you need my help with this.
Tatiana
On Thu Apr 23 16:43:27 2020, jensen wrote:
> Ho-Chun,
>
> FAR stands for False Alarm Ratio - which is false alarms/(hits +
false
> alarms). Success Ratio is 1-FAR to make the statistic orientated in
a
> way
> to make the Performance Diagram work. That's why in the R data it
> has FAR
> rather than Success Ratio. If you want to read more about it, an
> easy
> online options is the *WWRP/WGNE Joint Working Group on Forecast
> Verification Research*
>
<http://www.wmo.int/pages/prog/arep/wwrp/new/Forecast_Verification.html>
> page at: https://www.cawcr.gov.au/projects/verification/
>
> Performance Diagrams synthesize the relationship between 4
categorical
> statistics. PODY, FAR, Critical Success Index (CSI), and Frequency
> Bias
> (FBIAS). The least optimal values are in lower left corner. The
> optimal
> score is in the upper right corner. A good reference for
Performance
> Diagrams is:
>
> Roebber, P.J., 2009: Visualizing multiple measures of forecast
> quality. *Weather
> and Forecasting*, *24*, 601-608.
>
> Let us know if this makes sense or if you need further
clarification.
> Cheers, Tara
>
> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 3:37 PM Minna Win via RT <met_help at ucar.edu>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > <URL: https://rt.rap.ucar.edu/rt/Ticket/Display.html?id=95027 >
> >
> > Hi Ho-Chun,
> >
> > For the second part of your question, which is verification-
specific,
> > I'll
> > refer this to Eric Gilleland, our resident statistician. Please
> > allow a
> > few days for a response.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Minna
> > ---------------
> > Minna Win
> > National Center for Atmospheric Research
> > Developmental Testbed Center
> > Phone: 303-497-8423
> > Fax: 303-497-8401
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 2:05 PM Ho-Chun Huang - NOAA Affiliate via
RT
> > <
> > met_help at ucar.edu> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Thu Apr 23 14:05:05 2020: Request 95027 was acted upon.
> > > Transaction: Ticket created by ho-chun.huang at noaa.gov
> > > Queue: met_help
> > > Subject: unexpected xlab and ylab from Metviewer batch
plots
> > > Owner: Nobody
> > > Requestors: ho-chun.huang at noaa.gov
> > > Status: new
> > > Ticket <URL:
> > > https://rt.rap.ucar.edu/rt/Ticket/Display.html?id=95027 >
> > >
> > >
> > > To Whom It may Concern:
> > >
> > > I am using the AWS batch mode to generate statistics graphics.
The
> > example
> > > xml file is at
> > >
> > >
> >
https://www.emc.ncep.noaa.gov/mmb/hchuang/transfer/plot_cmaqv5para8_aod_performance.xml
> > >
> > > and the figure produced is at
> > >
> > >
> >
https://www.emc.ncep.noaa.gov/mmb/hchuang/transfer/CONUS_CMAQV5PARA8_AOD_PERFORMANCE_DAY1_06Z_ALLQC_202003.png
> > >
> > > Even though I did not specify xlab and y1lab, or y2lab
> > > <title>
> > > MET_CMAQV5PARA8_AOD_PERFORMANCE_Diagram_DAY2_12Z - SWD
> > > </title>
> > > <x_label/>
> > > <y1_label/>
> > > <y2_label/>
> > >
> > > There is the text of "probability of detection" for ylab and
> > > "success
> > > ratio" for xlab. Are they both default values in left "null"?
> > >
> > > I know ylab is PODY, but what does the xlab "success ratio"
means?
> > > When
> > > working on Metviewer on AWS web site, in the R data area I also
see
> > > data
> > > for FAR. Is it the false alarm rate ?
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> > > Ho-Chun Huang
> > >
> > > IMSG at NOAA/NWS/NCEP/EMC
> > >
> > > 5830 University Research Ct., Rm. 2792
> > >
> > > College Park, MD 20740
> > >
> > > Ho-Chun.Huang at noaa.gov <Joe.Smith at noaa.gov>
> > >
> > > 301-683-3958
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
------------------------------------------------
Subject: unexpected xlab and ylab from Metviewer batch plots
From: Ho-Chun Huang - NOAA Affiliate
Time: Fri Apr 24 08:54:26 2020
Hi, Tatiana:
Thanks for the explanation.
One more thing, would you be able to adjust xtlab_size, ytlab_size,
xlab_size ylab_size on AWS? When I made changes, the new plot did not
change the size? I am not asking you to do any fix, just want to know
if
it is my browser problem or not.
Ho-Chun Huang
IMSG at NOAA/NWS/NCEP/EMC
5830 University Research Ct., Rm. 2792
College Park, MD 20740
Ho-Chun.Huang at noaa.gov <Joe.Smith at noaa.gov>
301-683-3958
On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 10:36 AM Tatiana Burek via RT
<met_help at ucar.edu>
wrote:
> Ho-Chun,
>
> I deployed the same fix for the Performance diagram to AWS batch app
as I
> did for the AWS web application. Now the axis labels should work as
> expected:
>
> - if x_label is empty - METviewer puts 'Success Ratio' as x-axis
name.
> METviewer uses user input otherwise
> - if y_label is empty - METviewer puts 'Probability of Detection' as
> y-axis name. METviewer uses user input otherwise
>
> I rerun your XML and got the attached image.
> I see that the x-axis name and the caption are in the same spot. I
would
> suggest to use the caption text as x_label. Or if you need x_label,
you
> could move the caption and the legend a few pixels down.
> Let me know if you need my help with this.
>
> Tatiana
>
> On Thu Apr 23 16:43:27 2020, jensen wrote:
> > Ho-Chun,
> >
> > FAR stands for False Alarm Ratio - which is false alarms/(hits +
false
> > alarms). Success Ratio is 1-FAR to make the statistic orientated
in a
> > way
> > to make the Performance Diagram work. That's why in the R data
it
> > has FAR
> > rather than Success Ratio. If you want to read more about it, an
> > easy
> > online options is the *WWRP/WGNE Joint Working Group on Forecast
> > Verification Research*
> >
<http://www.wmo.int/pages/prog/arep/wwrp/new/Forecast_Verification.html>
> > page at: https://www.cawcr.gov.au/projects/verification/
> >
> > Performance Diagrams synthesize the relationship between 4
categorical
> > statistics. PODY, FAR, Critical Success Index (CSI), and
Frequency
> > Bias
> > (FBIAS). The least optimal values are in lower left corner. The
> > optimal
> > score is in the upper right corner. A good reference for
Performance
> > Diagrams is:
> >
> > Roebber, P.J., 2009: Visualizing multiple measures of forecast
> > quality. *Weather
> > and Forecasting*, *24*, 601-608.
> >
> > Let us know if this makes sense or if you need further
clarification.
> > Cheers, Tara
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 3:37 PM Minna Win via RT
<met_help at ucar.edu>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > <URL: https://rt.rap.ucar.edu/rt/Ticket/Display.html?id=95027 >
> > >
> > > Hi Ho-Chun,
> > >
> > > For the second part of your question, which is verification-
specific,
> > > I'll
> > > refer this to Eric Gilleland, our resident statistician. Please
> > > allow a
> > > few days for a response.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Minna
> > > ---------------
> > > Minna Win
> > > National Center for Atmospheric Research
> > > Developmental Testbed Center
> > > Phone: 303-497-8423
> > > Fax: 303-497-8401
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 2:05 PM Ho-Chun Huang - NOAA Affiliate
via RT
> > > <
> > > met_help at ucar.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Thu Apr 23 14:05:05 2020: Request 95027 was acted upon.
> > > > Transaction: Ticket created by ho-chun.huang at noaa.gov
> > > > Queue: met_help
> > > > Subject: unexpected xlab and ylab from Metviewer batch
plots
> > > > Owner: Nobody
> > > > Requestors: ho-chun.huang at noaa.gov
> > > > Status: new
> > > > Ticket <URL:
> > > > https://rt.rap.ucar.edu/rt/Ticket/Display.html?id=95027 >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To Whom It may Concern:
> > > >
> > > > I am using the AWS batch mode to generate statistics graphics.
The
> > > example
> > > > xml file is at
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
https://www.emc.ncep.noaa.gov/mmb/hchuang/transfer/plot_cmaqv5para8_aod_performance.xml
> > > >
> > > > and the figure produced is at
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
https://www.emc.ncep.noaa.gov/mmb/hchuang/transfer/CONUS_CMAQV5PARA8_AOD_PERFORMANCE_DAY1_06Z_ALLQC_202003.png
> > > >
> > > > Even though I did not specify xlab and y1lab, or y2lab
> > > > <title>
> > > > MET_CMAQV5PARA8_AOD_PERFORMANCE_Diagram_DAY2_12Z - SWD
> > > > </title>
> > > > <x_label/>
> > > > <y1_label/>
> > > > <y2_label/>
> > > >
> > > > There is the text of "probability of detection" for ylab and
> > > > "success
> > > > ratio" for xlab. Are they both default values in left "null"?
> > > >
> > > > I know ylab is PODY, but what does the xlab "success ratio"
means?
> > > > When
> > > > working on Metviewer on AWS web site, in the R data area I
also see
> > > > data
> > > > for FAR. Is it the false alarm rate ?
> > > >
> > > > Thank you.
> > > >
> > > > Ho-Chun Huang
> > > >
> > > > IMSG at NOAA/NWS/NCEP/EMC
> > > >
> > > > 5830 University Research Ct., Rm. 2792
> > > >
> > > > College Park, MD 20740
> > > >
> > > > Ho-Chun.Huang at noaa.gov <Joe.Smith at noaa.gov>
> > > >
> > > > 301-683-3958
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
>
------------------------------------------------
Subject: unexpected xlab and ylab from Metviewer batch plots
From: Tatiana Burek
Time: Fri Apr 24 09:02:45 2020
Currently METviewer doesn't support these parameters in the
Performance diagram.
METplus team is working on implementing this plot using Python and we
cam add this feature to the new implementation.
Tatiana
On Fri Apr 24 08:54:26 2020, ho-chun.huang at noaa.gov wrote:
> Hi, Tatiana:
>
> Thanks for the explanation.
>
> One more thing, would you be able to adjust xtlab_size, ytlab_size,
> xlab_size ylab_size on AWS? When I made changes, the new plot did
not
> change the size? I am not asking you to do any fix, just want to
know
> if
> it is my browser problem or not.
>
> Ho-Chun Huang
>
> IMSG at NOAA/NWS/NCEP/EMC
>
> 5830 University Research Ct., Rm. 2792
>
> College Park, MD 20740
>
> Ho-Chun.Huang at noaa.gov <Joe.Smith at noaa.gov>
>
> 301-683-3958
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 10:36 AM Tatiana Burek via RT
> <met_help at ucar.edu>
> wrote:
>
> > Ho-Chun,
> >
> > I deployed the same fix for the Performance diagram to AWS batch
app
> > as I
> > did for the AWS web application. Now the axis labels should work
as
> > expected:
> >
> > - if x_label is empty - METviewer puts 'Success Ratio' as x-axis
> > name.
> > METviewer uses user input otherwise
> > - if y_label is empty - METviewer puts 'Probability of Detection'
as
> > y-axis name. METviewer uses user input otherwise
> >
> > I rerun your XML and got the attached image.
> > I see that the x-axis name and the caption are in the same spot. I
> > would
> > suggest to use the caption text as x_label. Or if you need
x_label,
> > you
> > could move the caption and the legend a few pixels down.
> > Let me know if you need my help with this.
> >
> > Tatiana
> >
> > On Thu Apr 23 16:43:27 2020, jensen wrote:
> > > Ho-Chun,
> > >
> > > FAR stands for False Alarm Ratio - which is false alarms/(hits +
> > > false
> > > alarms). Success Ratio is 1-FAR to make the statistic
orientated
> > > in a
> > > way
> > > to make the Performance Diagram work. That's why in the R data
it
> > > has FAR
> > > rather than Success Ratio. If you want to read more about it,
an
> > > easy
> > > online options is the *WWRP/WGNE Joint Working Group on Forecast
> > > Verification Research*
> > >
<http://www.wmo.int/pages/prog/arep/wwrp/new/Forecast_Verification.html>
> > > page at: https://www.cawcr.gov.au/projects/verification/
> > >
> > > Performance Diagrams synthesize the relationship between 4
> > > categorical
> > > statistics. PODY, FAR, Critical Success Index (CSI), and
Frequency
> > > Bias
> > > (FBIAS). The least optimal values are in lower left corner.
The
> > > optimal
> > > score is in the upper right corner. A good reference for
> > > Performance
> > > Diagrams is:
> > >
> > > Roebber, P.J., 2009: Visualizing multiple measures of forecast
> > > quality. *Weather
> > > and Forecasting*, *24*, 601-608.
> > >
> > > Let us know if this makes sense or if you need further
> > > clarification.
> > > Cheers, Tara
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 3:37 PM Minna Win via RT
> > > <met_help at ucar.edu>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > <URL: https://rt.rap.ucar.edu/rt/Ticket/Display.html?id=95027
>
> > > >
> > > > Hi Ho-Chun,
> > > >
> > > > For the second part of your question, which is verification-
> > > > specific,
> > > > I'll
> > > > refer this to Eric Gilleland, our resident statistician.
Please
> > > > allow a
> > > > few days for a response.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Minna
> > > > ---------------
> > > > Minna Win
> > > > National Center for Atmospheric Research
> > > > Developmental Testbed Center
> > > > Phone: 303-497-8423
> > > > Fax: 303-497-8401
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 2:05 PM Ho-Chun Huang - NOAA Affiliate
> > > > via RT
> > > > <
> > > > met_help at ucar.edu> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thu Apr 23 14:05:05 2020: Request 95027 was acted upon.
> > > > > Transaction: Ticket created by ho-chun.huang at noaa.gov
> > > > > Queue: met_help
> > > > > Subject: unexpected xlab and ylab from Metviewer batch
> > > > > plots
> > > > > Owner: Nobody
> > > > > Requestors: ho-chun.huang at noaa.gov
> > > > > Status: new
> > > > > Ticket <URL:
> > > > > https://rt.rap.ucar.edu/rt/Ticket/Display.html?id=95027 >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > To Whom It may Concern:
> > > > >
> > > > > I am using the AWS batch mode to generate statistics
graphics.
> > > > > The
> > > > example
> > > > > xml file is at
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
https://www.emc.ncep.noaa.gov/mmb/hchuang/transfer/plot_cmaqv5para8_aod_performance.xml
> > > > >
> > > > > and the figure produced is at
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >
https://www.emc.ncep.noaa.gov/mmb/hchuang/transfer/CONUS_CMAQV5PARA8_AOD_PERFORMANCE_DAY1_06Z_ALLQC_202003.png
> > > > >
> > > > > Even though I did not specify xlab and y1lab, or y2lab
> > > > > <title>
> > > > > MET_CMAQV5PARA8_AOD_PERFORMANCE_Diagram_DAY2_12Z - SWD
> > > > > </title>
> > > > > <x_label/>
> > > > > <y1_label/>
> > > > > <y2_label/>
> > > > >
> > > > > There is the text of "probability of detection" for ylab and
> > > > > "success
> > > > > ratio" for xlab. Are they both default values in left
"null"?
> > > > >
> > > > > I know ylab is PODY, but what does the xlab "success ratio"
> > > > > means?
> > > > > When
> > > > > working on Metviewer on AWS web site, in the R data area I
also
> > > > > see
> > > > > data
> > > > > for FAR. Is it the false alarm rate ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ho-Chun Huang
> > > > >
> > > > > IMSG at NOAA/NWS/NCEP/EMC
> > > > >
> > > > > 5830 University Research Ct., Rm. 2792
> > > > >
> > > > > College Park, MD 20740
> > > > >
> > > > > Ho-Chun.Huang at noaa.gov <Joe.Smith at noaa.gov>
> > > > >
> > > > > 301-683-3958
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Subject: unexpected xlab and ylab from Metviewer batch plots
From: Ho-Chun Huang - NOAA Affiliate
Time: Fri Apr 24 09:12:11 2020
Tatiana:
Thank you for the information. Please close the ticket.
Ho-Chun Huang
IMSG at NOAA/NWS/NCEP/EMC
5830 University Research Ct., Rm. 2792
College Park, MD 20740
Ho-Chun.Huang at noaa.gov <Joe.Smith at noaa.gov>
301-683-3958
On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 11:03 AM Tatiana Burek via RT
<met_help at ucar.edu>
wrote:
> Currently METviewer doesn't support these parameters in the
Performance
> diagram.
> METplus team is working on implementing this plot using Python and
we cam
> add this feature to the new implementation.
>
> Tatiana
>
> On Fri Apr 24 08:54:26 2020, ho-chun.huang at noaa.gov wrote:
> > Hi, Tatiana:
> >
> > Thanks for the explanation.
> >
> > One more thing, would you be able to adjust xtlab_size,
ytlab_size,
> > xlab_size ylab_size on AWS? When I made changes, the new plot did
not
> > change the size? I am not asking you to do any fix, just want to
know
> > if
> > it is my browser problem or not.
> >
> > Ho-Chun Huang
> >
> > IMSG at NOAA/NWS/NCEP/EMC
> >
> > 5830 University Research Ct., Rm. 2792
> >
> > College Park, MD 20740
> >
> > Ho-Chun.Huang at noaa.gov <Joe.Smith at noaa.gov>
> >
> > 301-683-3958
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 10:36 AM Tatiana Burek via RT
> > <met_help at ucar.edu>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Ho-Chun,
> > >
> > > I deployed the same fix for the Performance diagram to AWS batch
app
> > > as I
> > > did for the AWS web application. Now the axis labels should work
as
> > > expected:
> > >
> > > - if x_label is empty - METviewer puts 'Success Ratio' as x-axis
> > > name.
> > > METviewer uses user input otherwise
> > > - if y_label is empty - METviewer puts 'Probability of
Detection' as
> > > y-axis name. METviewer uses user input otherwise
> > >
> > > I rerun your XML and got the attached image.
> > > I see that the x-axis name and the caption are in the same spot.
I
> > > would
> > > suggest to use the caption text as x_label. Or if you need
x_label,
> > > you
> > > could move the caption and the legend a few pixels down.
> > > Let me know if you need my help with this.
> > >
> > > Tatiana
> > >
> > > On Thu Apr 23 16:43:27 2020, jensen wrote:
> > > > Ho-Chun,
> > > >
> > > > FAR stands for False Alarm Ratio - which is false alarms/(hits
+
> > > > false
> > > > alarms). Success Ratio is 1-FAR to make the statistic
orientated
> > > > in a
> > > > way
> > > > to make the Performance Diagram work. That's why in the R
data it
> > > > has FAR
> > > > rather than Success Ratio. If you want to read more about
it, an
> > > > easy
> > > > online options is the *WWRP/WGNE Joint Working Group on
Forecast
> > > > Verification Research*
> > > > <
>
http://www.wmo.int/pages/prog/arep/wwrp/new/Forecast_Verification.html>
> > > > page at: https://www.cawcr.gov.au/projects/verification/
> > > >
> > > > Performance Diagrams synthesize the relationship between 4
> > > > categorical
> > > > statistics. PODY, FAR, Critical Success Index (CSI), and
Frequency
> > > > Bias
> > > > (FBIAS). The least optimal values are in lower left corner.
The
> > > > optimal
> > > > score is in the upper right corner. A good reference for
> > > > Performance
> > > > Diagrams is:
> > > >
> > > > Roebber, P.J., 2009: Visualizing multiple measures of forecast
> > > > quality. *Weather
> > > > and Forecasting*, *24*, 601-608.
> > > >
> > > > Let us know if this makes sense or if you need further
> > > > clarification.
> > > > Cheers, Tara
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 3:37 PM Minna Win via RT
> > > > <met_help at ucar.edu>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > <URL:
https://rt.rap.ucar.edu/rt/Ticket/Display.html?id=95027 >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Ho-Chun,
> > > > >
> > > > > For the second part of your question, which is verification-
> > > > > specific,
> > > > > I'll
> > > > > refer this to Eric Gilleland, our resident statistician.
Please
> > > > > allow a
> > > > > few days for a response.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Minna
> > > > > ---------------
> > > > > Minna Win
> > > > > National Center for Atmospheric Research
> > > > > Developmental Testbed Center
> > > > > Phone: 303-497-8423
> > > > > Fax: 303-497-8401
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 2:05 PM Ho-Chun Huang - NOAA
Affiliate
> > > > > via RT
> > > > > <
> > > > > met_help at ucar.edu> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thu Apr 23 14:05:05 2020: Request 95027 was acted upon.
> > > > > > Transaction: Ticket created by ho-chun.huang at noaa.gov
> > > > > > Queue: met_help
> > > > > > Subject: unexpected xlab and ylab from Metviewer
batch
> > > > > > plots
> > > > > > Owner: Nobody
> > > > > > Requestors: ho-chun.huang at noaa.gov
> > > > > > Status: new
> > > > > > Ticket <URL:
> > > > > > https://rt.rap.ucar.edu/rt/Ticket/Display.html?id=95027 >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To Whom It may Concern:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am using the AWS batch mode to generate statistics
graphics.
> > > > > > The
> > > > > example
> > > > > > xml file is at
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
>
https://www.emc.ncep.noaa.gov/mmb/hchuang/transfer/plot_cmaqv5para8_aod_performance.xml
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and the figure produced is at
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
>
https://www.emc.ncep.noaa.gov/mmb/hchuang/transfer/CONUS_CMAQV5PARA8_AOD_PERFORMANCE_DAY1_06Z_ALLQC_202003.png
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Even though I did not specify xlab and y1lab, or y2lab
> > > > > > <title>
> > > > > > MET_CMAQV5PARA8_AOD_PERFORMANCE_Diagram_DAY2_12Z - SWD
> > > > > > </title>
> > > > > > <x_label/>
> > > > > > <y1_label/>
> > > > > > <y2_label/>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There is the text of "probability of detection" for ylab
and
> > > > > > "success
> > > > > > ratio" for xlab. Are they both default values in left
"null"?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I know ylab is PODY, but what does the xlab "success
ratio"
> > > > > > means?
> > > > > > When
> > > > > > working on Metviewer on AWS web site, in the R data area I
also
> > > > > > see
> > > > > > data
> > > > > > for FAR. Is it the false alarm rate ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ho-Chun Huang
> > > > > >
> > > > > > IMSG at NOAA/NWS/NCEP/EMC
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 5830 University Research Ct., Rm. 2792
> > > > > >
> > > > > > College Park, MD 20740
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ho-Chun.Huang at noaa.gov <Joe.Smith at noaa.gov>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 301-683-3958
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
>
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