[Met_help] [rt.rap.ucar.edu #75797] History for verification of a list of stations

John Halley Gotway via RT met_help at ucar.edu
Thu Apr 14 09:39:37 MDT 2016


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  Initial Request
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Hello,

I am trying to verify a list of stations using point_stat.
I am giving a list like this:


10015
10020
10022
10028
10035
10042
10046
10055
10091
10093
10097
10113
10129
10130
(...)
which I added in a file and in the config file

mask = {
   grid    = ["FULL"];
   poly    = [];
   sid     = "longPathHere/config/stationlist.txt";
};


point_stat seems to be reading only the first Station id. I see
this in the output:

DEBUG 2: Processing TMP/Z2 versus TMP/Z2, for observation type ADPSFC, over
region FULL, for interpolation method LS_FIT(4), using 1130 pairs.
DEBUG 2: Processing TMP/Z2 versus TMP/Z2, for observation type ADPSFC, over
region 10015, for interpolation method LS_FIT(4), using 154 pairs.
DEBUG 2: Processing WIND/Z10 versus WIND/Z10, for observation type ADPSFC,
over region FULL, for interpolation method LS_FIT(4), using 1076 pairs.
DEBUG 2: Processing WIND/Z10 versus WIND/Z10, for observation type ADPSFC,
over region 10015, for interpolation method LS_FIT(4), using 154 pairs.


But nothing for stations  10020, 10022, etc
Am I providing the list in the wrong way?
The Station ids were given in a single column in the ASCII file above.
I also tried putting them in one single line separating the names
by spaces. Could you tell me if this is the correct format?

Thank you for any help.

Best regards

Carlos


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Subject: verification of a list of stations
From: Carlos Peralta
Time: Thu Apr 07 03:48:15 2016

Hello again,

sorry, I think it is working after all.
I guess I was expecting a similar message from each
station, but point_stat seems to report only the statistics over
the "region" defined in the file with the station list:

DEBUG 2: Processing WIND/Z10 versus WIND/Z10, for observation type
ADPSFC,
over region Germany, for interpo lation method LS_FIT(4), using 155
pairs.

I see now it is reading the complete list:
DEBUG 4: parse_sid_mask() -> parsed 196 station ID's for the "Germany"
mask
from file...

I guess if I want the answers generated in separate files for each
station I would have to provide the station names in separate files?

Apologies for the confusion.

Best regards,

Carlos


On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 9:28 AM, met_help at ucar.edu via RT
<met_help at ucar.edu>
wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> This message has been automatically generated in response to the
> creation of a trouble ticket regarding:
>         "verification of a list of stations",
> a summary of which appears below.
>
> There is no need to reply to this message right now.  Your ticket
has been
> assigned an ID of [rt.rap.ucar.edu #75797].
>
> Please include the string:
>
>          [rt.rap.ucar.edu #75797]
>
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To do
> so,
> you may reply to this message.
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>                         Thank you,
>                         met_help at ucar.edu
>
>
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> Hello,
>
> I am trying to verify a list of stations using point_stat.
> I am giving a list like this:
>
>
> 10015
> 10020
> 10022
> 10028
> 10035
> 10042
> 10046
> 10055
> 10091
> 10093
> 10097
> 10113
> 10129
> 10130
> (...)
> which I added in a file and in the config file
>
> mask = {
>    grid    = ["FULL"];
>    poly    = [];
>    sid     = "longPathHere/config/stationlist.txt";
> };
>
>
> point_stat seems to be reading only the first Station id. I see
> this in the output:
>
> DEBUG 2: Processing TMP/Z2 versus TMP/Z2, for observation type
ADPSFC, over
> region FULL, for interpolation method LS_FIT(4), using 1130 pairs.
> DEBUG 2: Processing TMP/Z2 versus TMP/Z2, for observation type
ADPSFC, over
> region 10015, for interpolation method LS_FIT(4), using 154 pairs.
> DEBUG 2: Processing WIND/Z10 versus WIND/Z10, for observation type
ADPSFC,
> over region FULL, for interpolation method LS_FIT(4), using 1076
pairs.
> DEBUG 2: Processing WIND/Z10 versus WIND/Z10, for observation type
ADPSFC,
> over region 10015, for interpolation method LS_FIT(4), using 154
pairs.
>
>
> But nothing for stations  10020, 10022, etc
> Am I providing the list in the wrong way?
> The Station ids were given in a single column in the ASCII file
above.
> I also tried putting them in one single line separating the names
> by spaces. Could you tell me if this is the correct format?
>
> Thank you for any help.
>
> Best regards
>
> Carlos
>
>

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Subject: verification of a list of stations
From: John Halley Gotway
Time: Mon Apr 11 16:46:55 2016

Hello Carlos,

I see that you're using the SID option in the Point-Stat configuration
file
to specify a list of station id's that you'd like to be included in
the
verification.

Below I've cut-and-pasted a selection from page 55 of the met-5.1
user's
guide:

http://www.dtcenter.org/met/users/docs/users_guide/MET_Users_Guide_v5.1.pdf

//    - The "sid" entry is an array of strings. Each entry in that
array is
//      either the name of a single station id or a filename. If it is
a
single
//      station id name, that station will be treated as its own
masking
region.
//      If it is a filename, that file should contain a "name" for the
station
//      id group followed by a space-separated list of station id's to
be
used.
//      That group "name" entry is what MET puts in the VX_MASK output
column.
//      This provides a way to define one or more groups of individual
stations
//      over which to compute statistics. This is an alternative to
defining a
//      masking region using a polyline or grid and is more convenient
if
you
//      have a specific list of station id's you'd like to use.

Please let me know if you need more clarification after reading this.

Also, let me call your attention to the matched pair (MPR) output line
type.  It is described in table 7.18 of the MET user's guide.  It
contains
the finsest level of detail that the Point-Stat tool can create.  For
each
observation value, it lists the forecast value along with timing and
location information, include the station id name.  By turning on the
MPR
output line type in Point-Stat, you'll get a *LOT* more output - one
output
line for each matched pair.

And you could pass those MPR lines to the STAT-Analysis tool and
compute
statistics through time at individual locations if you'd like.

Hopefully that helps clarify.  Please let us know what other issues or
questions you have.

Thanks,
John Halley Gotway
met_help at ucar.edu

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 3:48 AM, Carlos Peralta via RT
<met_help at ucar.edu>
wrote:

>
> <URL: https://rt.rap.ucar.edu/rt/Ticket/Display.html?id=75797 >
>
> Hello again,
>
> sorry, I think it is working after all.
> I guess I was expecting a similar message from each
> station, but point_stat seems to report only the statistics over
> the "region" defined in the file with the station list:
>
> DEBUG 2: Processing WIND/Z10 versus WIND/Z10, for observation type
ADPSFC,
> over region Germany, for interpo lation method LS_FIT(4), using 155
pairs.
>
> I see now it is reading the complete list:
> DEBUG 4: parse_sid_mask() -> parsed 196 station ID's for the
"Germany" mask
> from file...
>
> I guess if I want the answers generated in separate files for each
> station I would have to provide the station names in separate files?
>
> Apologies for the confusion.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Carlos
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 9:28 AM, met_help at ucar.edu via RT <
> met_help at ucar.edu>
> wrote:
>
> > Greetings,
> >
> > This message has been automatically generated in response to the
> > creation of a trouble ticket regarding:
> >         "verification of a list of stations",
> > a summary of which appears below.
> >
> > There is no need to reply to this message right now.  Your ticket
has
> been
> > assigned an ID of [rt.rap.ucar.edu #75797].
> >
> > Please include the string:
> >
> >          [rt.rap.ucar.edu #75797]
> >
> > in the subject line of all future correspondence about this issue.
To do
> > so,
> > you may reply to this message.
> >
> >                         Thank you,
> >                         met_help at ucar.edu
> >
> >
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am trying to verify a list of stations using point_stat.
> > I am giving a list like this:
> >
> >
> > 10015
> > 10020
> > 10022
> > 10028
> > 10035
> > 10042
> > 10046
> > 10055
> > 10091
> > 10093
> > 10097
> > 10113
> > 10129
> > 10130
> > (...)
> > which I added in a file and in the config file
> >
> > mask = {
> >    grid    = ["FULL"];
> >    poly    = [];
> >    sid     = "longPathHere/config/stationlist.txt";
> > };
> >
> >
> > point_stat seems to be reading only the first Station id. I see
> > this in the output:
> >
> > DEBUG 2: Processing TMP/Z2 versus TMP/Z2, for observation type
ADPSFC,
> over
> > region FULL, for interpolation method LS_FIT(4), using 1130 pairs.
> > DEBUG 2: Processing TMP/Z2 versus TMP/Z2, for observation type
ADPSFC,
> over
> > region 10015, for interpolation method LS_FIT(4), using 154 pairs.
> > DEBUG 2: Processing WIND/Z10 versus WIND/Z10, for observation type
> ADPSFC,
> > over region FULL, for interpolation method LS_FIT(4), using 1076
pairs.
> > DEBUG 2: Processing WIND/Z10 versus WIND/Z10, for observation type
> ADPSFC,
> > over region 10015, for interpolation method LS_FIT(4), using 154
pairs.
> >
> >
> > But nothing for stations  10020, 10022, etc
> > Am I providing the list in the wrong way?
> > The Station ids were given in a single column in the ASCII file
above.
> > I also tried putting them in one single line separating the names
> > by spaces. Could you tell me if this is the correct format?
> >
> > Thank you for any help.
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> > Carlos
> >
> >
>
>

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Subject: verification of a list of stations
From: Carlos Peralta
Time: Thu Apr 14 06:23:07 2016

Thank you, John.
The information about the mpr output was very useful.

Best regards,

Carlos


On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 12:46 AM, John Halley Gotway via RT <
met_help at ucar.edu> wrote:

> Hello Carlos,
>
> I see that you're using the SID option in the Point-Stat
configuration file
> to specify a list of station id's that you'd like to be included in
the
> verification.
>
> Below I've cut-and-pasted a selection from page 55 of the met-5.1
user's
> guide:
>
>
http://www.dtcenter.org/met/users/docs/users_guide/MET_Users_Guide_v5.1.pdf
>
> //    - The "sid" entry is an array of strings. Each entry in that
array is
> //      either the name of a single station id or a filename. If it
is a
> single
> //      station id name, that station will be treated as its own
masking
> region.
> //      If it is a filename, that file should contain a "name" for
the
> station
> //      id group followed by a space-separated list of station id's
to be
> used.
> //      That group "name" entry is what MET puts in the VX_MASK
output
> column.
> //      This provides a way to define one or more groups of
individual
> stations
> //      over which to compute statistics. This is an alternative to
> defining a
> //      masking region using a polyline or grid and is more
convenient if
> you
> //      have a specific list of station id's you'd like to use.
>
> Please let me know if you need more clarification after reading
this.
>
> Also, let me call your attention to the matched pair (MPR) output
line
> type.  It is described in table 7.18 of the MET user's guide.  It
contains
> the finsest level of detail that the Point-Stat tool can create.
For each
> observation value, it lists the forecast value along with timing and
> location information, include the station id name.  By turning on
the MPR
> output line type in Point-Stat, you'll get a *LOT* more output - one
output
> line for each matched pair.
>
> And you could pass those MPR lines to the STAT-Analysis tool and
compute
> statistics through time at individual locations if you'd like.
>
> Hopefully that helps clarify.  Please let us know what other issues
or
> questions you have.
>
> Thanks,
> John Halley Gotway
> met_help at ucar.edu
>
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 3:48 AM, Carlos Peralta via RT
<met_help at ucar.edu>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > <URL: https://rt.rap.ucar.edu/rt/Ticket/Display.html?id=75797 >
> >
> > Hello again,
> >
> > sorry, I think it is working after all.
> > I guess I was expecting a similar message from each
> > station, but point_stat seems to report only the statistics over
> > the "region" defined in the file with the station list:
> >
> > DEBUG 2: Processing WIND/Z10 versus WIND/Z10, for observation type
> ADPSFC,
> > over region Germany, for interpo lation method LS_FIT(4), using
155
> pairs.
> >
> > I see now it is reading the complete list:
> > DEBUG 4: parse_sid_mask() -> parsed 196 station ID's for the
"Germany"
> mask
> > from file...
> >
> > I guess if I want the answers generated in separate files for each
> > station I would have to provide the station names in separate
files?
> >
> > Apologies for the confusion.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Carlos
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 9:28 AM, met_help at ucar.edu via RT <
> > met_help at ucar.edu>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Greetings,
> > >
> > > This message has been automatically generated in response to the
> > > creation of a trouble ticket regarding:
> > >         "verification of a list of stations",
> > > a summary of which appears below.
> > >
> > > There is no need to reply to this message right now.  Your
ticket has
> > been
> > > assigned an ID of [rt.rap.ucar.edu #75797].
> > >
> > > Please include the string:
> > >
> > >          [rt.rap.ucar.edu #75797]
> > >
> > > in the subject line of all future correspondence about this
issue. To
> do
> > > so,
> > > you may reply to this message.
> > >
> > >                         Thank you,
> > >                         met_help at ucar.edu
> > >
> > >
>
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I am trying to verify a list of stations using point_stat.
> > > I am giving a list like this:
> > >
> > >
> > > 10015
> > > 10020
> > > 10022
> > > 10028
> > > 10035
> > > 10042
> > > 10046
> > > 10055
> > > 10091
> > > 10093
> > > 10097
> > > 10113
> > > 10129
> > > 10130
> > > (...)
> > > which I added in a file and in the config file
> > >
> > > mask = {
> > >    grid    = ["FULL"];
> > >    poly    = [];
> > >    sid     = "longPathHere/config/stationlist.txt";
> > > };
> > >
> > >
> > > point_stat seems to be reading only the first Station id. I see
> > > this in the output:
> > >
> > > DEBUG 2: Processing TMP/Z2 versus TMP/Z2, for observation type
ADPSFC,
> > over
> > > region FULL, for interpolation method LS_FIT(4), using 1130
pairs.
> > > DEBUG 2: Processing TMP/Z2 versus TMP/Z2, for observation type
ADPSFC,
> > over
> > > region 10015, for interpolation method LS_FIT(4), using 154
pairs.
> > > DEBUG 2: Processing WIND/Z10 versus WIND/Z10, for observation
type
> > ADPSFC,
> > > over region FULL, for interpolation method LS_FIT(4), using 1076
pairs.
> > > DEBUG 2: Processing WIND/Z10 versus WIND/Z10, for observation
type
> > ADPSFC,
> > > over region 10015, for interpolation method LS_FIT(4), using 154
pairs.
> > >
> > >
> > > But nothing for stations  10020, 10022, etc
> > > Am I providing the list in the wrong way?
> > > The Station ids were given in a single column in the ASCII file
above.
> > > I also tried putting them in one single line separating the
names
> > > by spaces. Could you tell me if this is the correct format?
> > >
> > > Thank you for any help.
> > >
> > > Best regards
> > >
> > > Carlos
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

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