[Met_help] PBL retrieval

John Halley Gotway johnhg at ucar.edu
Fri Mar 5 11:01:59 MST 2010


Joe,

No, I don't think they need to be in any particular time order.

John

Joe Eastman wrote:
> Hi John,
> 
> One more nuance I thought of. Does the data have to be in temporal sequential order? There are days when multiple flights are occurring at the same time. I guess I could write something to sort and combine these but it would be very easy if that was not necessary,
> 
> Take care,
> Joe
> 
> Dr. Joseph L. Eastman
> Senior Atmospheric Scientist 
> WindLogics Inc.
> 201 4th St NW
> Grand Rapids, MN
> 55744
> 
> c - 410.279.9702
> w - 651.556.4297
> jeastman at windlogics.com
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Halley Gotway [mailto:johnhg at ucar.edu] 
> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 10:48 AM
> To: Joe Eastman
> Cc: met_help at ucar.edu
> Subject: Re: [Met_help] PBL retrieval
> 
> Joe,
> 
> OK, so you have observations of the "BOUNDARY LAYER DEPTH RETRIEVAL".  What sort of comparison are you trying to do?  Are you trying to compare it to GRIB code 221 (Planetary boundary layer height,
> HPBL)?  The units of HPBL are meters, and I'm guessing they correspond to above ground level (AGL), but I'm really not sure.  You should figure out if you want to be comparing to AGL or MSL.  I'm
> really not sure.
> 
> So assuming you want to compare your forecast of HPBL to your lidar observations AGL, here's what I'd suggest doing...
> - Reformat these ASCII files into an ASCII format for use by the ASCII2NC tool.  That format consists of 10 columns:
>   (1)  Message_Type - Set to "ADPSFC" to pretend that these are observations taken at the surface.
>   (2)  Station_ID - Just put a dummy string in here.  Doesn't really matter.
>   (3)  Valid_Time - Put in the observation time in YYYYMMDD_HHMMSS format.
>   (4)  Lat(Deg North) - Use the value in the LATITUDE column.
>   (5)  Lon(Deg East) - Use the value in the LONGITUDE column.
>   (6)  Elevation(msl) - Just put "-9999" since this isn't actually used in Point-Stat.
>   (7)  Grib_Code - Set to 221 to mean that this observation should compared to Planetary boundary layer height forecasts.
>   (8)  Level - Just put "-9999" since we don't have a pressure value for this observation.  We're just pretending they were taken at the surface.
>   (9)  Height(msl) - Just put "-9999" since this isn't actually used in Point-Stat.
>   (10) Observation_Value - Use the value in the ZI_AGL column.  Be sure to use "-9999" for missing data.
> 
> I'd try reformatting the ASCII as described above, run it though ASCII2NC, and then use Point-Stat to compare your forecast of HPBL to these observations.  So in the Point-Stat config file, set:
>   fcst_field[]   = [ "HPBL/Z0" ];
>   message_type[] = [ "ADPSFC" ];
> 
> Give that a shot and let us know if that works for you.
> 
> Thanks,
> John
> 
> Joe Eastman wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> What is the best way to create an obs input file for this profiler PBL retrieval data? It is not a fixed station so I am not sure how to attack this.
>>
>>          198
>> BOUNDARY LAYER DEPTH RETRIEVAL
>> IHOP 2002 EXPERIMENT
>> File:     DLR0519leg01azi.txt
>> Created:  Tue Apr 12 11:54:16 EDT 2005
>> Platform: DLR Lidar
>> Date:     05/19/2002
>> Time:     16:40:54 - 17:06:30
>> Number of Data Points:              198
>> Average Aircraft Speed (m/s):       142.279
>> Starting Aircraft Altitude (m MSL): 4566.41
>> Ending Aircraft Altitude (m MSL):   4851.70
>> PI: Dr. Ken Davis (davis at met.psu.edu).  Contact: Ken Craig (kcraig at met.psu.edu).
>> Department of Meteorology, The Pennsylvania State University
>> 503 Walker Building, University Park, PA 16802-5013
>>
>>   TIME         LATITUDE      LONGITUDE       ZI_MSL       ZI_AGL
>> 16:40:54       35.49359     -100.59423      -999.00      -999.00
>> 16:41:00       35.49520     -100.60099      -999.00      -999.00
>> 16:41:06       35.49749     -100.60725      -999.00      -999.00
>> 16:41:12       35.50061     -100.61314      -999.00      -999.00
>> 16:41:18       35.50465     -100.61868      -999.00      -999.00
>> 16:41:24       35.50946     -100.62359      -999.00      -999.00
>> 16:41:30       35.51509     -100.62767      -999.00      -999.00
>> 16:41:36       35.52119     -100.63056      -999.00      -999.00
>> 16:41:42       35.52773     -100.63193      -999.00      -999.00
>> 16:41:48       35.53448     -100.63148      -999.00      -999.00
>> 16:41:54       35.54134     -100.62993      -999.00      -999.00
>> 16:42:00       35.54831     -100.62796      1755.00       840.00
>> 16:42:06       35.55552     -100.62576      1740.00       825.00
>> 16:42:18       35.57038     -100.62107      1755.00       840.00
>> 16:42:24       35.57814     -100.61858      1755.00       825.00
>> 16:42:30       35.58604     -100.61600      1740.00       810.00
>> 16:42:36       35.59404     -100.61341      1755.00       810.00
>> 16:42:42       35.60226     -100.61072      1740.00       795.00
>> 16:42:48       35.61045     -100.60802      1755.00       810.00
>> 16:42:54       35.61875     -100.60521      1770.00       825.00
>> 16:43:00       35.62681     -100.60246      1740.00       795.00
>> 16:43:06       35.63487     -100.59979      1695.00       765.00
>> 16:43:12       35.64290     -100.59781      -999.00      -999.00
>> 16:43:18       35.65094     -100.59665      -999.00      -999.00
>> 16:43:24       35.65900     -100.59617      1695.00       780.00
>> 16:43:30       35.66690     -100.59621      1680.00       765.00
>> 16:43:36       35.67475     -100.59667      1650.00       735.00
>> 16:43:42       35.68251     -100.59745      1695.00       795.00
>> 16:43:54       35.69807     -100.59966      1725.00       825.00
>> 16:44:00       35.70585     -100.60093      1680.00       825.00
>> 16:44:06       35.71367     -100.60224      1725.00       870.00
>> 16:44:12       35.72134     -100.60350      1740.00       900.00
>> 16:44:18       35.72899     -100.60470      1740.00       915.00
>> 16:44:24       35.73666     -100.60580      1740.00       885.00
>> 16:44:30       35.74437     -100.60681      1740.00       900.00
>> 16:44:36       35.75196     -100.60769      1665.00       810.00
>> 16:44:42       35.75962     -100.60845      1710.00       855.00
>> 16:44:48       35.76728     -100.60909      1785.00       915.00
>> 16:44:54       35.77497     -100.60958      1815.00       945.00
>> 16:45:00       35.78257     -100.60995      1755.00       870.00
>> 16:45:06       35.79018     -100.61021      1680.00       780.00
>> 16:45:12       35.79769     -100.61038      1725.00       810.00
>> 16:45:18       35.80531     -100.61048      1680.00       780.00
>> 16:45:30       35.82038     -100.61048      1635.00       750.00
>> 16:45:36       35.82796     -100.61040      1650.00       795.00
>> 16:45:42       35.83546     -100.61028      1620.00       750.00
>> 16:45:48       35.84317     -100.61012      1650.00       780.00
>> 16:45:54       35.85064     -100.60995      1680.00       825.00
>> 16:46:00       35.85815     -100.60976      1695.00       840.00
>> 16:46:06       35.86560     -100.60958      1650.00       810.00
>> 16:46:12       35.87310     -100.60940      1665.00       795.00
>> 16:46:18       35.88054     -100.60923      1680.00       825.00
>> 16:46:24       35.88811     -100.60909      1620.00       750.00
>> 16:46:30       35.89556     -100.60895      1620.00       780.00
>> 16:46:36       35.90316     -100.60885      1650.00       840.00
>> Etc
>>
>>
>> Take care,
>> Joe
>>
>> Dr. Joseph L. Eastman
>> Senior Atmospheric Scientist
>> WindLogics Inc.
>> 201 4th St NW
>> Grand Rapids, MN
>> 55744
>>
>> c - 410.279.9702
>> w - 651.556.4297
>> jeastman at windlogics.com<mailto:jeastman at windlogics.com>
>>
>>
>>
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