[Go-essp-tech] Minutes: 1/6/10 Output Variable Telecon

[Lowry, Roy K]

Dear All,

If people can hook into files we serve then the maintenance use case becomes much easier.  If people really can't work with the SKOS we serve and local transforms into the XML profile of choice (e.g. OWL) then let me know in detail what is needed and we will do what we can to provide it.

Cheers, Roy.
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From: Bryan Lawrence [bryan.lawrence at stfc.ac.uk]
Sent: 06 January 2010 16:31
To: go-essp-tech at ucar.edu
Cc: Luca Cinquini; Sylvia Murphy; Metafor List; curator at ucar.edu; Gerry Devine; Lowry, Roy K; Alison Pamment
Subject: Re: [Go-essp-tech] Minutes: 1/6/10 Output Variable Telecon

Hi Luca

As Alison updates CF, the updated lists go in XML to the bodc vocab server, and I think he's got those in SKOS at some point. SKOS to OWL has to be easier than most routes ...

Cheers
Bryan

On Wednesday 06 January 2010 16:09:55 Luca Cinquini wrote:
> Hi Sylvia,
>       one comment below:
>
> On Jan 6, 2010, at 8:47 AM, Sylvia Murphy wrote:
>
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > Gerry Devine and I had a call today to discuss what ESG needs to do
> > with respect to output variables in the ESG model metadata display.
> > Thanks Gerry for making it into the office with 12 inches of snow on
> > the ground and more on the way!  It was a useful conversation.  Here
> > are some salient points:
> >
> >
> > a) The METAFOR questionnaire will not be collecting output variable
> > information.
> >
> > b) Gerry had created a spreadsheet of variables requested by CMIP5.
> > The first column is the name, the second column is the mindmap
> > component this variable would most likely be associated with, and
> > the third column is the CF standard name if it exists.
> >
> > c) Allision, at BADC is working on getting CF standard names for all
> > the CMIP5 variables.  This is an ongoing process but is not complete.
> This is great - ESG has its own list of CF variables as an owl file,
> but it is almost a year out of date, so we do need to convert the
> latest list from Allison into something we can ingest into the ESG
> triple stores, and this must be done ahead of the March release date.
> thanks, Luca
> >
> > d) The spreadsheet is several months out of date.  It would take
> > Gerry 2 working days to bring the spreadsheet up to date with
> > respect to the mindmaps and CF variables.
> >
> > e) There are over 800 variables in the spreadsheet
> >
> >
> > QUESTION:
> >
> > ** Since this information is not in the questionnaire, do we still
> > want to pursue trying to get it into the ESG display?  **
> >
> > The information is not actual output variables but requested
> > variables.  They may match  what the model is doing or they may
> > not.  The variables are also subjectively tied to a particular
> > component in the mindmaps, but could in reality be tied to another
> > component in the model.
> >
> > My personal opinion:  Since this information is not actually factual
> > for the model component it would be displayed with AND the factual
> > information will be available in ESGs dataset display,  this list of
> > requested CMIP5 variables has limited utility in the ESG model
> > metadata display.
> >
> >
> > Everyone please chime in.  Further discussions and actions will be
> > required if this needs to be pressed further.
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Sylvia
> > ***********************************
> > Sylvia Murphy
> > sylvia.murphy at noaa.gov
> > 303-497-7753
> >
> >
> >
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