[Go-essp-tech] Minutes of ESG meeting 2009/08/07

[Kershaw, Philip (STFC,RAL,SSTD)]

Hi Stephen,

I've added in a comment against:

"Need a timescale for Authorisation and clear understanding of what is involved."

I'd like to arrange a telecon with Luca and Rachana + others interested to discuss security and a timetable for completion.

Cheers,
Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: go-essp-tech-bounces at ucar.edu 
> [mailto:go-essp-tech-bounces at ucar.edu] On Behalf Of Pascoe, 
> Stephen (STFC,RAL,SSTD)
> Sent: 12 August 2009 16:50
> To: Dean N. Williams; Cecelia DeLuca; Lawrence, Bryan 
> (STFC,RAL,SSTD); V. Balaji; Michael Lautenschlager; Don 
> Middleton; Luca Cinquini; Bob Drach; Sylvia Murphy; Pascoe, 
> Charlotte (STFC,RAL,SSTD); Stephan Kindermann; Gavin M Bell; 
> Ann Chervenak; Rachana Ananthakrishnan; Nathan Wilhelmi; 
> Nathan Hook; Bernholdt Dave; Frank Toussaint; Stephens, Ag 
> (STFC,RAL,SSTD); Philip Bentley
> Cc: go-essp-tech at ucar.edu
> Subject: [Go-essp-tech] Minutes of ESG meeting 2009/08/07
> 
> 
> 
>  
> Dear Colleagues,
> 
> Bryan, Ag and I have prepared some minutes of the 
> teleconference last week and put them on our IS-ENES wiki at 
> http://proj.badc.rl.ac.uk/isenes/wiki/EsgMeetings/Telecon20090807
> 
> Comments and points that need further clarification are 
> marked in bold with a vertical bar comment mark.  Please 
> point out any inaccuracies and answer anything that you can.  
> I will be preparing a short document distilling the issues 
> BADC/IS-ENES are concerned about for our next teleconference 
> that we hope to arrange for mid September.  Invite to follow.
> 
> Cheers,
> Stephen.
> 
> ---
> Stephen Pascoe  +44 (0)1235 445980
> British Atmospheric Data Centre
> Rutherford Appleton Laboratory
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dean N. Williams [mailto:williams13 at llnl.gov] 
> Sent: 07 August 2009 12:25
> To: Cecelia DeLuca; Lawrence, BN (Bryan); V. Balaji; Michael 
> Lautenschlager; Don Middleton; Luca Cinquini; Bob Drach; 
> Sylvia Murphy; Pascoe, CL (Charlotte); Pascoe, S (Stephen); 
> Stephan Kindermann; Gavin M Bell; Ann Chervenak; Rachana 
> Ananthakrishnan; Nathan Wilhelmi; Nathan Hook; Bernholdt 
> Dave; Frank Toussaint; Stephens, A (Ag); Philip Bentley
> Subject: Today's Agenda in a couple of Hours
> 
> Dear Colleagues,
> 
> I don't know if I have everyone listed on this e-mail 
> exchange, please forward to those that I may have missed. 
> Sketch of today's agenda by Bryan...
> 
> 1) Discuss scope of this telecon. Expected outcome: a clear 
> understanding of how data and metadata flow within the ESG 
> (+friends) consortium. Who is responsible for the data flow, 
> what software needs to exist, who is responsible for it, and 
> what the timelines for delivery a) are, and b) need to be.
> 
> 2) Data Flow. Modelling centres create data, and ingest it 
> into their ESG data node. How does data flow to the ESG core? 
> How does the catalogue metadata know about replicants of data 
> at modelling centres?  
> What happens for modelling centres who are not ESG nodes or 
> don't have mates who are ESG data nodes that can take their 
> data?  What does the current list of expected modlling 
> centres look like?  When and how do we expect core replicants 
> to move. How will the catalogues know? Who is keeping track 
> of all that, and how are they updating the rest of us?
> 
> 3) Metadata Flow. How does the metadata from the 
> questionnaire get to the ESG team? What about the gridspec 
> files? How do we stitch the three sources of metadata 
> together (cf output, model metadata, gridspec). Who does it? 
> Where? What are the common elements of metadata along which 
> we do the stitching?
> 
> 4) Vocabularies. What vocabularies are we managing? Where? 
> Are they in common? If not, what's the route to commonality?
> 
> 5) Revisit expected outcomes: can we write down a clear 
> sequence of activities, and a clear data flow, with 
> unambiguous activities resulting in tools and/or products? Do 
> we have a clear timeline end-to- end, and clear ownership of 
> every step? Can we have a commitment from ESG to publish 
> their milestones, deliverables, and progress
> *REGULARLY* on the go-essp-tech list?
> 
> 6) How do we expect to evolve these data and metadata flows?
> 
> Best regards,
> 	Dean
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