[ESP] ESP page
Glenn Rutledge
Glenn.Rutledge@noaa.gov
Fri, 21 Feb 2003 06:58:43 -0500
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Hi Chris,
The page looks great. Several things: I did not see much traffic re: Earth
Science Portal name problem. My take is that the team should consider
alternatives since, as you state, the NASA site already exists and we are not
associated with that project- and its hard sometimes to compete, or confusing
to users, with engines such as Google. But....
Here's a thought- are not the goals of the ESP similar to NCAR's Climate Data
Portal (CDP). Do you need another name-/ group? Why not just merge this
effort with CDP (-gee DonM heads that up). Call it an advisory or technical
devlp group/Provider Web template group for CDP- whatever. I don't mean to be
uncooperative here but it's safe to say that the end goals are key. Not
another group. Most of the goals there also parallel the NOMADS goals. It
just seems most of the folks on the ESP are part of NOMADS, and/or CDP (ESMF,
ESG, etc.). No doubt the NOMADS focus is on data access. ESP is back end
devlp no? Why not just pull folks into CDP who work on the back end
stuff...and into NOMADS who'll focus on the data access part? When it comes
down to it- distributed access provided by the Lab's and Center's is the
goal. I off base here? Maybe so, but I thought I'd throw this out there.
If not, for the new name consider the efforts goals, and the major benefits to
the community- to name the page. I liked the earlier suggestion by Cathy
Smith but not sure one would necessarily omit the data part, solely based on
the inclusion of model code. Thinking out loud: Climate (should) include
ocean, weather is (mean) climate. What else? That's about it- no? Websters
says Earth Science fits the bill (better than GeoScience anyway). GESP.
Change the G to Global? I don't know it needs some more thought tho'.
Either way- please provide links to COLA and the GrADS-DODS Server; and
include Brian Doty at COLA for POC section. Please remember that there seems
to be two camps out there... NetCDF, and GRIB. Climate and weather. Let's
not leave the weather community behind. Sorry for the rambling - seems to me
it needs to be said.
Regards, Glenn
Christopher Kerr wrote:
> Greetings:
> The temporary location of the ESP home page is:
>
> http://nomads.gfdl.noaa.gov/~ck/esp/webpages/
>
> I'm still waiting for the server here to be configured. Once this is done,
> the permanent address of the ESP home page will be:
>
> http://esportal.gfdl.noaa.gov
>
> Let me know if you have comments or suggestions on the home page.
>
> Christopher
>
> --
> Dr. Christopher L. Kerr
> Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory
> Forrestal Campus
> Princeton University
> Princeton, New Jersey 08542
> Telephone: (609) 452-6573
> Fax: (609) 987-5063
> Email: ck@gfdl.noaa.gov
> Web: http://www.gfdl.gov/~ck
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Hi Chris,
<br>The page looks great. Several things: I did not see much
traffic re: Earth Science Portal name problem. My take is that the
team should consider alternatives since, as you state, the NASA site already
exists and we are not associated with that project- and its hard sometimes
to compete, or confusing to users, with engines such as Google.
But....
<p>Here's a thought- are not the goals of the ESP similar to NCAR's Climate
Data Portal (CDP). Do you need another name-/ group? Why not
just merge this effort with CDP (-gee DonM heads that up). Call it
an advisory or technical devlp group/Provider Web template group for CDP-
whatever. I don't mean to be uncooperative here but it's safe to
say that the end goals are key. Not another group. Most of
the goals there also parallel the NOMADS goals. It just seems
most of the folks on the ESP are part of NOMADS, and/or CDP (ESMF, ESG,
etc.). No doubt the NOMADS focus is on data access. ESP is
back end devlp no? Why not just pull folks into CDP who work on the
back end stuff...and into NOMADS who'll focus on the data access part?
When it comes down to it- distributed access provided by the Lab's and
Center's is the goal. I off base here? Maybe so, but I thought
I'd throw this out there.
<p>If not, for the new name consider the efforts goals, and the major benefits
to the community- to name the page. I liked the earlier suggestion
by Cathy Smith but not sure one would necessarily omit the data part, solely
based on the inclusion of model code. Thinking out loud: Climate
(should) include ocean, weather is (mean) climate. What else?
That's about it- no? Websters says Earth Science fits the bill (better
than GeoScience anyway). GESP. Change the G to Global?
I don't know it needs some more thought tho'.
<p><b>Either way-</b> please provide links to COLA and the GrADS-DODS Server;
and include Brian Doty at COLA for POC section. Please remember that
there seems to be two camps out there... NetCDF, and GRIB.
Climate and weather. Let's not leave the weather community behind.
Sorry for the rambling - seems to me it needs to be said.
<br>
<br>Regards, Glenn
<br>
<br>
<p>Christopher Kerr wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Greetings:
<br>The temporary location of the ESP home page is:
<p><a href="http://nomads.gfdl.noaa.gov/~ck/esp/webpages/">http://nomads.gfdl.noaa.gov/~ck/esp/webpages/</a>
<p>I'm still waiting for the server here to be configured. Once this is
done,
<br>the permanent address of the ESP home page will be:
<p><a href="http://esportal.gfdl.noaa.gov">http://esportal.gfdl.noaa.gov</a>
<p>Let me know if you have comments or suggestions on the home page.
<p>Christopher
<p>--
<br>Dr. Christopher L. Kerr
<br>Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory
<br>Forrestal Campus
<br>Princeton University
<br>Princeton, New Jersey 08542
<br>Telephone: (609) 452-6573
<br>Fax: (609) 987-5063
<br>Email: ck@gfdl.noaa.gov
<br>Web: <a href="http://www.gfdl.gov/~ck">http://www.gfdl.gov/~ck</a>
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