[Wrf-users] terrain features in 850mbar geopotential height

Hein Zelle zelle at argoss.nl
Tue Nov 20 09:21:58 MST 2007


Dear WRF users,

we're seeing an unexpected terrain-following behaviour in the
geopotential height field at 850 mbar in our WRF output.  In the mean
time I'm convinced that I'm computing things correctly, so perhaps
there's a more conceptual problem.  We are computing

1)  the model level at which P+PB = 85000 Pa   (interpolated)
2)  the geopotential height (PH + PHB)/9.81  interpolated to that level.

Please see http://www.icce.rug.nl/~hein/geopotential_terrain.png for
an image over western europe, clearly showing the alps and other
terrain features in this field.  The variable shown is geopotential
height in m at 850 mbar level.  At 500mbar the terrain features are
mostly gone.  I've checked for earlier mails on this topic and found
one, but that poster claimed the problem went away after the first
time steps.  Not so in our case - this behaviour is consistent across
a 48 hour run.  We have also tried WRF POST, it shows the same
terrain-following behaviour and does the same computation as far as I
can see from the source code.

Are we computing the correct variable?  Charts from
www.wetterzentrale.de show the 850 mbar geopotential height field even
above the alps, suggesting they are computing a virtual field.  How
should we compute this from WRF output files?

Kind regards,

     Hein Zelle

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