<div dir="ltr"><div>THX for the file: <b>gfs.t00z.pgrb2.0p25.f000.grb2</b></div><div><br></div><div>Using NCL Version <b>6.6.2</b>, the output from</div><div><br></div><div>%> ncl_filedump gfs.t00z.pgrb2.0p25.f000.grb2 >&! dump.gfs.txt<br></div><div><br></div><div>is attached.</div><div>===</div><div>Multiple 'TMP' variables are on the file.</div><div><br></div><div>TMP_P0_L1_GLL0<br>TMP_P0_L6_GLL0<br>TMP_P0_L7_GLL0<br>TMP_P0_L100_GLL0<br>[SNIP]</div><div><br></div><div>It does include: float <b>TMP_P0_L103_GLL0 </b>( lv_HTGL2, lat_0, lon_0 )</div><div>====</div><div><br></div><div>You are using NCL Version <b>6.4</b></div><div><b><br></b></div><div>I can only speculate that subsequent versions of NCL had updates to handle the NCEP GRIB2 files. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Unless, others have suggestion, you may have to upgrade your versions of NCL.</div><div><br></div><div>Good Luck<br></div><div><b></b></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 1:26 PM Dennis Shea <<a href="mailto:shea@ucar.edu" target="_blank">shea@ucar.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Ummm, Looks like a truncated file.<br></div><div>======<br></div><div>Please make the file available.</div><div><br></div><div>One approach would be to ftp the file:</div><div><br></div><div>ftp <a href="http://ftp.cgd.ucar.edu" target="_blank">ftp.cgd.ucar.edu</a></div><div>anonymous</div><div>your_email</div><div>cd incoming</div><div>put gfs.t00z.pgrb2.0p25.f000</div><div>quit</div><div><br></div><div>*After* a successful file transfer, email me directly.<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 12:15 PM <<a href="mailto:dr.hieronymus@posteo.net" target="_blank">dr.hieronymus@posteo.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hello,<br>
<br>
Thanks for your advices.<br>
<br>
I am using ncl 6.4.0 on Ubuntu 18.04.5 LTS.<br>
<br>
First of all I realized that the GFS file extension has to be .grb2. <br>
Otherwise ncl cannot read the file.<br>
<br>
I get the following output by using the command: ncl_filedump <br>
gfs.t00z.pgrb2.0p25.f000.grb2<br>
<br>
I'm still confused since I get the error/warning regarding the grid. <br>
Moreover, there is no variable named TMP_P0_L103_GLL0.<br>
<br>
What is broken?<br>
<br>
Thanks in advance.<br>
<br>
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fatal:GdsCEGrid: Invalid grid detected<br>
fatal:NclGRIB2: Couldn't handle dimension information returned by grid <br>
decoding<br>
fatal:NclGRIB2: Deleting reference to parameter because of decoding <br>
error<br>
fatal:GdsCEGrid: Invalid grid detected<br>
fatal:NclGRIB2: Couldn't handle dimension information returned by grid <br>
decoding<br>
fatal:NclGRIB2: Deleting reference to parameter because of decoding <br>
error<br>
fatal:GdsCEGrid: Invalid grid detected<br>
...<br>
...<br>
...<br>
fatal:GdsCEGrid: Invalid grid detected<br>
fatal:NclGRIB2: Couldn't handle dimension information returned by grid <br>
decoding<br>
fatal:NclGRIB2: Deleting reference to parameter because of decoding <br>
error<br>
fatal:GdsCEGrid: Invalid grid detected<br>
fatal:NclGRIB2: Couldn't handle dimension information returned by grid <br>
decoding<br>
fatal:NclGRIB2: Deleting reference to parameter because of decoding <br>
error<br>
<br>
Variable: f<br>
Type: file<br>
filename: gfs.t00z.pgrb2.0p25.f000<br>
path: gfs.t00z.pgrb2.0p25.f000.grb2<br>
file global attributes:<br>
dimensions:<br>
lv_ISBL0 = 34<br>
lv_AMSL1 = 3<br>
lv_HTGL2 = 3<br>
lv_PVL3 = 2<br>
lv_HTGL4 = 2<br>
lv_ISBL5 = 31<br>
lv_SIGL6 = 4<br>
lv_ISBL7 = 22<br>
lv_HTGL8 = 7<br>
lv_ISBL9 = 21<br>
lv_ISBL10 = 29<br>
lv_SPDL11 = 2<br>
lv_ISBL12 = 24<br>
lv_DBLL13 = 4<br>
variables:<br>
float lv_DBLL13_l1 ( lv_DBLL13 )<br>
long_name : Depth below land surface<br>
units : m<br>
<br>
float lv_DBLL13_l0 ( lv_DBLL13 )<br>
long_name : Depth below land surface<br>
units : m<br>
<br>
float lv_ISBL12 ( lv_ISBL12 )<br>
long_name : Isobaric surface<br>
units : Pa<br>
<br>
float lv_SPDL11_l1 ( lv_SPDL11 )<br>
long_name : Level at specified pressure difference from ground <br>
to level<br>
units : Pa<br>
<br>
float lv_SPDL11_l0 ( lv_SPDL11 )<br>
long_name : Level at specified pressure difference from ground <br>
to level<br>
units : Pa<br>
<br>
float lv_ISBL10 ( lv_ISBL10 )<br>
long_name : Isobaric surface<br>
units : Pa<br>
<br>
float lv_ISBL9 ( lv_ISBL9 )<br>
long_name : Isobaric surface<br>
units : Pa<br>
<br>
float lv_HTGL8 ( lv_HTGL8 )<br>
long_name : Specified height level above ground<br>
units : m<br>
<br>
float lv_ISBL7 ( lv_ISBL7 )<br>
long_name : Isobaric surface<br>
units : Pa<br>
<br>
float lv_SIGL6_l1 ( lv_SIGL6 )<br>
long_name : Sigma level (sigma value)<br>
units : none<br>
<br>
float lv_SIGL6_l0 ( lv_SIGL6 )<br>
long_name : Sigma level (sigma value)<br>
units : none<br>
<br>
float lv_ISBL5 ( lv_ISBL5 )<br>
long_name : Isobaric surface<br>
units : Pa<br>
<br>
float lv_HTGL4 ( lv_HTGL4 )<br>
long_name : Specified height level above ground<br>
units : m<br>
<br>
float lv_PVL3 ( lv_PVL3 )<br>
long_name : Potential vorticity<br>
units : K m2 kg-1 s-1<br>
<br>
float lv_HTGL2 ( lv_HTGL2 )<br>
long_name : Specified height level above ground<br>
units : m<br>
<br>
float lv_AMSL1 ( lv_AMSL1 )<br>
long_name : Specific altitude above mean sea level<br>
units : m<br>
<br>
float lv_ISBL0 ( lv_ISBL0 )<br>
long_name : Isobaric surface<br>
units : Pa<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Am 09.03.2021 05:10 schrieb Lyndz:<br>
> Hello,<br>
> <br>
> In addition to Sir Dennis' reply.<br>
> <br>
> *[1] *If you want to plot the surface temperature, use the<br>
> *TMP_P0_L103_GLL0*<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> *Variable: temp*<br>
> <br>
> *Type: float*<br>
> <br>
> *Total Size: 4152960 bytes*<br>
> <br>
> * 1038240 values*<br>
> <br>
> *Number of Dimensions: 2*<br>
> <br>
> *Dimensions and sizes: [lat_0 | 721] x [lon_0 | 1440]*<br>
> <br>
> *Coordinates: *<br>
> <br>
> * lat_0: [90..-90]*<br>
> <br>
> * lon_0: [ 0..359.75]*<br>
> <br>
> *Number Of Attributes: 14*<br>
> <br>
> * initial_time : 11/10/2020 (00:00)*<br>
> <br>
> * forecast_time_units : hours*<br>
> <br>
> * forecast_time : 3*<br>
> <br>
> * level_type : Specified height level above ground (m)*<br>
> <br>
> * parameter_template_discipline_category_number : ( 0, 0, 0, 0 )*<br>
> <br>
> * parameter_discipline_and_category : Meteorological products, <br>
> Temperature*<br>
> <br>
> * grid_type : Latitude/longitude*<br>
> <br>
> * units : K*<br>
> <br>
> * long_name : Temperature*<br>
> <br>
> * production_status : Operational products*<br>
> <br>
> * center : US National Weather Service - NCEP (WMC)*<br>
> <br>
> * lv_HTGL2 : 2*<br>
> <br>
> * _FillValue : 1e+20*<br>
> <br>
> * level : 0*<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> *[2] *Check this simple explanation from David Brown's reply in one of <br>
> the<br>
> posts here:<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <a href="https://mailman.ucar.edu/pipermail/ncl-talk/2015-December/004772.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://mailman.ucar.edu/pipermail/ncl-talk/2015-December/004772.html</a><br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> *[3] *Have a look at NCL's sample scripts for plotting GRIB2 files <br>
> here:<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <a href="http://www.ncl.ucar.edu/Training/Workshops/UMaine/Scripts/Plymouth/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.ncl.ucar.edu/Training/Workshops/UMaine/Scripts/Plymouth/</a><br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Sincerely,<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Lyndz<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 5:19 AM Dennis Shea <<a href="mailto:shea@ucar.edu" target="_blank">shea@ucar.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
>> [1] Please: Always include the version of NCL you are using.<br>
>> <br>
>> %> ncl -V<br>
>> <br>
>> The most recent version is 6.6.2<br>
>> <br>
>> [2] Before processing, you can examine a GRIB file's contents via:<br>
>> <br>
>> %> *ncl_filedump* gfs.t00z.pgrb2.0p25.f001.grb | less<br>
>> <br>
>> Do you see a variable named "TMP_P0_L102_GLL0" ?<br>
>> <br>
>> [3]<br>
>> <br>
>> grib_file = "gfs.t00z.pgrb2.0p25.f001" + ".grb"<br>
>> fin = addfile(grib_file, "r")<br>
>> varnames = getfilevarnames(fin)<br>
>> print(varnames)<br>
>> <br>
>> The output you included shows only vertical dimension variables: lv_*<br>
>> (0) lv_DBLL14_l1<br>
>> (1) lv_DBLL14_l0<br>
>> (2) lv_ISBL13<br>
>> ......SNIP ......<br>
>> (15) lv_HTGL2<br>
>> (16) lv_AMSL1<br>
>> (17) lv_ISBL0<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> Then, NCL tells you that the variable *TMP_P0_L102_GLL0* *is not in <br>
>> the<br>
>> grib file *<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 1:35 PM dr.hieronymus--- via ncl-talk <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:ncl-talk@mailman.ucar.edu" target="_blank">ncl-talk@mailman.ucar.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>>> Hi,<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Regarding the GFS files, I have written to NCEP. Thanks, that was a <br>
>>> good<br>
>>> idea.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> When using following code:<br>
>>> <br>
>>> ;;; load ncl scripts/files<br>
>>> load "/usr/lib/ncarg/nclscripts/csm/gsn_code.ncl"<br>
>>> load "/usr/lib/ncarg/nclscripts/csm/gsn_csm.ncl"<br>
>>> load "/usr/lib/ncarg/nclscripts/csm/contributed.ncl"<br>
>>> <br>
>>> begin<br>
>>> <br>
>>> ;;; read data from grib file<br>
>>> grib_file = "gfs.t00z.pgrb2.0p25.f001"<br>
>>> fin = addfile(grib_file, "r")<br>
>>> varnames = getfilevarnames(fin)<br>
>>> <br>
>>> print(varnames)<br>
>>> printVarSummary(fin->TMP_P0_L102_GLL0)<br>
>>> <br>
>>> ;;; get variables: level, variable, longitude, latitude<br>
>>> ;t2m = fin->TMP_P0_L102_GLL0(:,:)<br>
>>> ;lon = fin->lon<br>
>>> ;lat = fin->lat<br>
>>> <br>
>>> ;;; convert to degrees<br>
>>> ;t2m = t2m-273.15<br>
>>> <br>
>>> end<br>
>>> <br>
>>> I get the following error message:<br>
>>> <br>
>>> warning:NclGRIB2: APCP_P8_L1 contains records that NCL cannot <br>
>>> currently<br>
>>> differentiate. One or more records will be ignored.<br>
>>> warning:NclGRIB2: ACPCP_P8_L1 contains records that NCL cannot <br>
>>> currently<br>
>>> differentiate. One or more records will be ignored.<br>
>>> fatal:GdsCEGrid: Invalid grid detected<br>
>>> fatal:NclGRIB2: Couldn't handle dimension information returned by <br>
>>> grid<br>
>>> decoding<br>
>>> fatal:NclGRIB2: Deleting reference to parameter because of decoding<br>
>>> error<br>
>>> fatal:GdsCEGrid: Invalid grid detected<br>
>>> fatal:NclGRIB2: Couldn't handle dimension information returned by <br>
>>> grid<br>
>>> decoding<br>
>>> fatal:NclGRIB2: Deleting reference to parameter because of decoding<br>
>>> error<br>
>>> ...<br>
>>> ...<br>
>>> ...<br>
>>> fatal:GdsCEGrid: Invalid grid detected<br>
>>> fatal:NclGRIB2: Couldn't handle dimension information returned by <br>
>>> grid<br>
>>> decoding<br>
>>> fatal:NclGRIB2: Deleting reference to parameter because of decoding<br>
>>> error<br>
>>> fatal:GdsCEGrid: Invalid grid detected<br>
>>> fatal:NclGRIB2: Couldn't handle dimension information returned by <br>
>>> grid<br>
>>> decoding<br>
>>> fatal:NclGRIB2: Deleting reference to parameter because of decoding<br>
>>> error<br>
>>> <br>
>>> <br>
>>> Variable: varnames<br>
>>> Type: string<br>
>>> Total Size: 144 bytes<br>
>>> 18 values<br>
>>> Number of Dimensions: 1<br>
>>> Dimensions and sizes: [18]<br>
>>> Coordinates:<br>
>>> (0) lv_DBLL14_l1<br>
>>> (1) lv_DBLL14_l0<br>
>>> (2) lv_ISBL13<br>
>>> (3) lv_ISBL12<br>
>>> (4) lv_SPDL11_l1<br>
>>> (5) lv_SPDL11_l0<br>
>>> (6) lv_ISBL10<br>
>>> (7) lv_ISBL9<br>
>>> (8) lv_HTGL8<br>
>>> (9) lv_ISBL7<br>
>>> (10) lv_SIGL6_l1<br>
>>> (11) lv_SIGL6_l0<br>
>>> (12) lv_ISBL5<br>
>>> (13) lv_HTGL4<br>
>>> (14) lv_PVL3<br>
>>> (15) lv_HTGL2<br>
>>> (16) lv_AMSL1<br>
>>> (17) lv_ISBL0<br>
>>> fatal:["Execute.c":6397]:variable (TMP_P0_L102_GLL0) is not in file<br>
>>> (fin)<br>
>>> fatal:["Execute.c":8640]:Execute: Error occurred at or near line 14 <br>
>>> in<br>
>>> file temperature_tmp.ncl<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Do I understand correctly that ncl has detected an invalid grid? Why?<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Thanks.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> <br>
>>> <br>
>>> Am 08.03.2021 16:44 schrieb Lyndz:<br>
>>> > Hi,<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > I'm not sure if this is an ncl question. You should have directed your<br>
>>> > questions to the ncep help page (<br>
>>> > <a href="https://www.ncep.noaa.gov/mail_dataquestions/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.ncep.noaa.gov/mail_dataquestions/</a>)<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > *[1] *As far as I know, the .anl files are analyses files and were<br>
>>> > already<br>
>>> > assimilated with observations.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > *[2]* If you want to use the forecast, then use the files with the<br>
>>> > following format (<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> <a href="https://nomads.ncep.noaa.gov/pub/data/nccf/com/gfs/prod/gfs.20210308/12/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://nomads.ncep.noaa.gov/pub/data/nccf/com/gfs/prod/gfs.20210308/12/</a><br>
>>> ):<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > gfs.t12z.pgrb2.0p25.f000<br>
>>> > <<br>
>>> <a href="https://nomads.ncep.noaa.gov/pub/data/nccf/com/gfs/prod/gfs.20210308/12/gfs.t12z.pgrb2.0p25.f000" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://nomads.ncep.noaa.gov/pub/data/nccf/com/gfs/prod/gfs.20210308/12/gfs.t12z.pgrb2.0p25.f000</a><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > gfs.t12z.pgrb2.0p25.f001<br>
>>> > <<br>
>>> <a href="https://nomads.ncep.noaa.gov/pub/data/nccf/com/gfs/prod/gfs.20210308/12/gfs.t12z.pgrb2.0p25.f001" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://nomads.ncep.noaa.gov/pub/data/nccf/com/gfs/prod/gfs.20210308/12/gfs.t12z.pgrb2.0p25.f001</a><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > etc..<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > No need to download the other files!<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > ncl_filedump gfs.t12z.pgrb2.0p25.f000.grb will give you the contents<br>
>>> > of the file.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > If you want temperature, then look for the keyword "Temperature". This<br>
>>> > will give u information about the variables such as below:<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > float TMP_P0_L102_GLL0 ( lv_AMSL1, lat_0, lon_0 )<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > center : US National Weather Service - NCEP (WMC)<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > production_status : Operational products<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > long_name : Temperature<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > units : K<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > _FillValue : 1e+20<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > grid_type : Latitude/longitude<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > parameter_discipline_and_category : Meteorological<br>
>>> > products, Temperature<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > parameter_template_discipline_category_number : ( 0, 0,<br>
>>> > 0, 0 )<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > level_type : Specific altitude above mean sea level (m)<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > forecast_time : 72<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > forecast_time_units : hours<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > initial_time : 03/08/2021 (00:00)<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > The variable name is the same for other GFS files, regardless of<br>
>>> > resolution.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > *[3]* For documentation, check this:<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> <a href="https://www.emc.ncep.noaa.gov/emc/pages/numerical_forecast_systems/gfs/documentation.php" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.emc.ncep.noaa.gov/emc/pages/numerical_forecast_systems/gfs/documentation.php</a><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > *[4] *The files are archived in <a href="http://rda.ucar.edu" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">rda.ucar.edu</a>. For the 25km GFS, for<br>
>>> > example, see this link:<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > <a href="https://rda.ucar.edu/datasets/ds084.1/#!docs" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://rda.ucar.edu/datasets/ds084.1/#!docs</a><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > Hope this helps.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > --Lyndz<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 8:05 PM dr.hieronymus--- via ncl-talk <<br>
>>> > <a href="mailto:ncl-talk@mailman.ucar.edu" target="_blank">ncl-talk@mailman.ucar.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> >> Hello,<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> I am trying to dig through GFS files in GRIB2 format on NCEP's FTP<br>
>>> >> server (<a href="https://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/products/gfs/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/products/gfs/</a>).<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Unfortunately, it is not very easy to get a proper overview.<br>
>>> >> Therefore,<br>
>>> >> my first question is whether there is documentation somewhere that<br>
>>> >> describes the different formats/variants in detail.<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> What one quickly notice and easy understand is that the GFS files are<br>
>>> >> available in different resolutions (0.25°, 0.50°, 1.00°) and each GFS<br>
>>> >> file is described by an index file. The GFS files with 0.25°<br>
>>> >> resolution<br>
>>> >> have an hourly granularity and the GFS files with 0.50° and 1.00°<br>
>>> >> resolution have a three-hourly granularity.<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Then, there are the .anl and .f000 GFS files. I don't understand the<br>
>>> >> difference between .anl and .f000. Is .f000 not a forecast?<br>
>>> >> Furthermore,<br>
>>> >> I noticed that the index files are different regarding .f000 and<br>
>>> >> .f001-384 (0.25°) and .f000 and .f003-384 (0.50°, 1.00°).<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> What also confuses me are the different GFS files, namely pgrb2,<br>
>>> >> pgrb2b,<br>
>>> >> pgrb2full and sfluxgrbfFFF. What are the differences exactly?<br>
>>> >> According<br>
>>> >> to the corresponding index files, the same physical variables are<br>
>>> >> available in all different GFS files. Do these variables always have<br>
>>> >> the<br>
>>> >> same values in all GFS files? Doesn't it matter which file I use<br>
>>> >> when<br>
>>> >> I have decided on a resolution?<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> I am actually only interested in the temperature 2 meters above the<br>
>>> >> ground. Which file should I simply use?<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> In addition, I also wanted to know if the initial values for each<br>
>>> >> model<br>
>>> >> run (00, 06, 12, 18) are published somewhere.<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Thank you in advance for your help.<br>
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