[NARCCAP-discuss] Sea Surface Temperatures (SST) in NARCCAP

Michael Wehner mfwehner at lbl.gov
Wed Jun 8 20:42:51 MDT 2011


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TS would be specified over the ocean from either observations (in the NCEP runs, but not a prognostic NCEP variable) or from the coupled global models. Over land, TS would be a prognostic variable from the land model within the RCM.

TAS always comes from the regional models. In any event, the two are not equal but are highly correlated.

Michael

On Jun 8, 2011, at 1:26 PM, Seth McGinnis wrote:

> Hi Darrin,
> 
> My understanding is limited, but I think what basically it comes down to is
> that surface air temperature (tas) comes from the bottom layer of the modeled
> atmosphere, whereas skin temperature (ts) comes from the surface scheme.
> 
> --Seth
> 
> 
> On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 11:43:01 -0600
> Darrin Sharp <dsharp at coas.oregonstate.edu> wrote:
>> What's the difference between tas (table 2) and ts (table 3) over the  
>> land, other than that tas is at 2m and ts is at the interface? Is ts  
>> over the land still a GCM input, while tas is computed by the regional  
>> model?
>> 
>> -Darrin
>> 
>> ======================================
>> Darrin Sharp
>> Faculty Research Assistant
>> Oregon Climate Change Research Inst. (OCCRI)
>> dsharp at coas.oregonstate.edu
>> 970-219-6713
>> 
>> On May 19, 2011, at 1:39 PM, Seth McGinnis wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Darrin,
>>> 
>>> Yes, it is.
>>> 
>>> The SSTs are an input from the GCMs, so we don't store them  
>>> separately as an
>>> output,  but over the oceans, surface/skin temperature (variable ts  
>>> in Table 3)
>>> should be the same as the input sea-surface temperature.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> --Seth
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, 18 May 2011 16:53:31 -0700
>>> Darrin Sharp <dsharp at coas.oregonstate.edu> wrote:
>>>> I don't see SST's explicitly listed as a parameter in NARCCAP.
>>>> However, in Tbl 3 there is a "surface (skin) temperature". Is this  
>>>> the
>>>> same thing (when over the ocean, of course) as the SST?
>>>> 
>>>> -Darrin
>>>> 
>>>> ======================================
>>>> Darrin Sharp
>>>> Faculty Research Assistant
>>>> Oregon Climate Change Research Inst. (OCCRI)
>>>> dsharp at coas.oregonstate.edu
>>>> 970-219-6713
>>> 
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