[Go-essp-tech] DRS hierarchy on disk

Dean N. Williams williams13 at llnl.gov
Fri Nov 20 08:43:26 MST 2009


Hi Phil,

	This is a good question. Perhaps Rachana or Frank can look into this  
and return a proper answer. My first thought is no, but I am not an  
expert on GridFTP.

Best regards,
	Dean

On Nov 20, 2009, at 2:28 AM, <philip.kershaw at stfc.ac.uk> wrote:

> This is a problem for something like GridFTP where you 'see' the  
> file system on the server not the DRS hierarchy.  It's a headache  
> for applying security policy as presumably this is based on the DRS  
> structure.  Some kind of mapping would need to be maintained.
>
> Is there a way of altering the GridFTP server side interface so that  
> it could see a virtual file system structure based on the DRS?
>
> Cheers,
> Phil
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> From: go-essp-tech-bounces at ucar.edu [mailto:go-essp-tech-bounces at ucar.edu 
> ] On Behalf Of Dean N. Williams
> Sent: 19 November 2009 12:14
> To: Lawrence, Bryan (STFC,RAL,SSTD)
> Cc: go-essp-tech at ucar.edu
> Subject: Re: [Go-essp-tech] DRS hierarchy on disk
>
> This is a correct statement.
>
> -Dean
>
> On Nov 19, 2009, at 4:04 AM, <bryan.lawrence at stfc.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi Stephen
>> Bob or someone else can confirm, but  I think the issue is that ESG  
>> in general is aiming at supporting more than just the DRS, so while  
>> conforming to DRS is a given for CMIP5, it’s not a given for all  
>> the datasets that ESG may work with.
>> Bryan
>> From: go-essp-tech-bounces at ucar.edu [mailto:go-essp-tech-bounces at ucar.edu 
>> ] On Behalf Of stephen.pascoe at stfc.ac.uk
>> Sent: 19 November 2009 11:49
>> To: drach at llnl.gov
>> Cc: go-essp-tech at ucar.edu
>> Subject: [Go-essp-tech] DRS hierarchy on disk
>> At the telco this Tuesday I was slightly surprised when someone (I  
>> think Bob) asserted data is not likely to follow the DRS hierarchy  
>> on disk.  Although we know the disk layout can be mapped to DRS  
>> URLs in the web server I thought our default position was that we  
>> would lay out the data in the DRS hierarchy because it is the  
>> simplest solution.
>> This issue came up in a meeting with UKMO yesterday where they  
>> thought there was a strong reason for using the DRS on disk so that  
>> fallback positions like ftp follow a consistent structure.  I also  
>> learnt that CMOR2 will output to the DRS hierarchy automatically.
>> Given this, why wouldn't we want to insist all datasets are stored  
>> on disk in the DRS hierarchy?
>> Thanks,
>> Stephen.
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