[ESP] ESP Logo
Brett DiFrischia
Brett.DiFrischia at noaa.gov
Wed Jun 23 11:36:54 MDT 2004
I think we should go for GOEST, as in ghost. I just don't know what the
T would stand for... Technologies was recommended by Eric.
Brett
Don Middleton wrote:
> I'm kinda partial to the GO-ESSP as opposed to GOESSP. I guess you'd
> pronounce the latter "Gossip" which, come to think of it, might
> actually be somewhat relevant ;-)
>
> Speaking of ESSP, do we really need two "S"'s? We've got an Earth
> System Grid, and an Earth System Modeling Framework - why not a Global
> Organization for Earth System Portals? Otherwise, somewhere down the
> road, we'll end up having to add extra "S"'s on all these other
> projects! And we don't want to reprint all those T-shirts, coffee
> mugs, memory sticks, and so forth... (whoops, guess that's the next
> project)
>
> I also liked 12 (I think I recall the numbering) and also did not care
> for the font on 13. The ability to have a transparent version and
> dithered version is always nice.
>
> Bryan, could you repost the Wiki URL?
>
> Real nice progress.
>
> cheers - don
>
> On Jun 23, 2004, at 7:43 AM, Bryan Lawrence wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Folks
>>
>> Fabulous! Eric, Roland, Katherine ... we're indebted.
>>
>> My two favourites are on the wiki ... maybe all the candidates could
>> be linked
>> to a page from there?
>>
>> I like the transparent one, and I like the "beige" one (preferred to
>> blue, the
>> particpant one at least will have to go onto web sites which already
>> exist
>> and blue may cause problems, but it's not that big a deal).
>>
>> I have no problem with the hypen, can live with or without it.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Bryan
>>
>> On Wednesday 23 June 2004 10:59, K. A. Bouton wrote:
>>
>>> I agree that a logo with a background that can be made transparent (ie
>>> one color that can be 'picked' by a graphics program and made
>>> transparent', or "dithered edge" is a good idea. Two versions maybe - a
>>> tranparent one Though I appreciate the history involved in the hyphen -
>>> oneword does look more ummmmmm "professional"?
>>>
>>> Anyway attached is a transparent goesp as an idea. Don't know what font
>>> was used
>>>
>>> Who came up with this artwork anyway - I really like the globe
>>> reflected
>>> on the screen behind the hands.
>>>
>>> K
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: esp-bounces at ucar.edu [mailto:esp-bounces at ucar.edu] On Behalf Of
>>> Roland Schweitzer
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 11:16 PM
>>> Cc: esp at ucar.edu
>>> Subject: Re: [ESP] ESP Logo
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> We're homing in on it. Now all that's left, as Balaji says, is at the
>>> "nitpicky level". We owe Eric a big round of applause and the first
>>> annual GOESSP "above and beyond" award for patiently responding to our
>>> suggestions.
>>>
>>> I've placed my reactions to this latest round in a little web page at
>>> http://tmap.pmel.noaa.gov/~rhs/ESP/
>>> <http://tmap.pmel.noaa.gov/~rhs/ESP/> . (Summary: I like esp12.jpg,
>>> but
>>> miss the hyphen). Please do not confuse my somewhat tongue in check
>>> response on the web page for a lack of gratitude. Eric has designed a
>>> professional looking logo for us and I certainly appreciate it.
>>> Unfortunately, groups seem to have a way of exhausting folks with
>>> talent
>>> that volunteer. Wouldn't it be nice if we could just...
>>>
>>> Roland
>>>
>>> Eric Marshall wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I tried your suggestion of an oval border and it didn't work for me. So
>>> I tried a rectrangle
>>>
>>> (which is slightly better). At the risk of creating more work for
>>> me, do
>>> people have favorite
>>>
>>> colors or fonts?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The following email will have this round of participant images
>>> attached.
>>>
>>>
>>> Let me know what ya' think.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Bryan Lawrence <mailto:b.n.lawrence at rl.ac.uk>
>>> <b.n.lawrence at rl.ac.uk>
>>>
>>> Date: Friday, June 18, 2004 4:30 am
>>>
>>> Subject: [ESP] ESP Logo
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Fabulous.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> OK, so now I'm embarassed (again ... :-) ... at least I'm used to
>>>
>>> it :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In Roland's original I saw the hands in the computer screen as an
>>>
>>> (electric)
>>>
>>> torch, shining light on the scene, which I thought was a nice
>>>
>>> concept.
>>>
>>> However, now I recognise what it is (hands), I like that even
>>>
>>> better ... so,
>>>
>>> I very much like Roland's versions of Eric's which has the best of
>>>
>>> both ...
>>>
>>> (ie the ones in the email where Roland points out I'm off in the
>>>
>>> weeds about
>>>
>>> torches).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I agree with Balaji, getting the extra S in there will be a *very*
>>>
>>> good thing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So, can we have GO-ESSP in both of the versions (main+participant)
>>>
>>> Roland just
>>>
>>> sent around, and then finally, either change the font or simply put
>>>
>>> a border
>>>
>>> (oval?) around it so it can sit on any colour background naturally.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks guys, and sorry for sounding so demanding ... if I could do
>>>
>>> it myself,
>>>
>>> I would ... (and sorry Eric for the red herring about the torch ...)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Bryan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday 17 June 2004 20:57, Eric Marshall wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I like all the logos, but especially Roland's number three ... I
>>>
>>> like the idea
>>>
>>> of having a logo which makes clear *why* the logo appears ... with
>>>
>>> a bigger
>>>
>>> background one that it could link to so whatever we do, can we
>>>
>>> please keep
>>>
>>> that concept?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It is always easier to create a banner from a smaller
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> square/circle than
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> the other way around. So once we find some
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> (To Roland's point about Coke-a-cola, it took them fifty years to
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> figure> out how to work with their material.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Is there any chance of having the globe coming out of the torch?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, but you'll have to be a little clearer as to how the globe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 'comes out'
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> of the torch.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I've attached a image with a torch thrown in.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> One other point to think about: the more gobbledygook stuffed in
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> an image,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> the less identifiable the image becomes when reduced (e.g. when a
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> web page
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> is printed or an image is taken from a web site and dumped into a
>>>
>>> PowerPoint page.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Eric W. Marshall
>>>
>>> 609 452-6673
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Raytheon on-site at:
>>>
>>> Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory
>>>
>>> P O Box 308 Princeton NJ 08542
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The opinions expressed in this message are my own and do not
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> necessarily> reflect those of the Geophysical Fluid Dynamics
>>>
>>> Laboratory, Raytheon,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration,
>>>
>>> the International House of Pancakes nor the U. S. Department of
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Commerce.>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: Bryan Lawrence <mailto:b.n.lawrence at rl.ac.uk>
>>> <b.n.lawrence at rl.ac.uk>
>>>
>>> Date: Thursday, June 17, 2004 11:49 am
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: RE: [ESP] Name, goals and logo]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Folks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Random thoughts ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I think the energy will pay off :-), it will certainly help us
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> all.> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I like all the logos, but especially Roland's number three ... I
>>>
>>> like the idea
>>>
>>> of having a logo which makes clear *why* the logo appears ... with
>>>
>>> a bigger
>>>
>>> background one that it could link to so whatever we do, can we
>>>
>>> please keep
>>>
>>> that concept?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I like the concept of the torch ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I like Global Organisation for ESP as a name ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I like Eric's number one better than his number two ... and I like
>>>
>>> the globe
>>>
>>> expanding out of the screen ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Is there any chance of having the globe coming out of the torch?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't like anyone's choice of font ... but that's just me ... in
>>>
>>> part
>>>
>>> because I like to have logos on backgrounds that may be non-white,
>>>
>>> but that
>>>
>>> can be sorted by having the logo inside a box ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ... only one penny's worth :-) :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bryan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday 17 June 2004 16:18, Roland Schweitzer wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
>>>
>>> <html>
>>>
>>> <head>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <title></title>
>>>
>>> </head>
>>>
>>> <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
>>>
>>> Hi,<br>
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> There have been some spectacularly successful horizontal logos
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> (think> of the white Coca-Cola script), but I agree with the
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> notion> > that a more
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> compact logo might be more versatile. I like esp1.jpg. The
>>>
>>> metaphor is concise (we can deliver the world to your desktop
>>>
>>> computer). I don't care for the metaphor in esp2.jsp (the
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> arrows> > > pointing every which way says to me "we're lost" not
>>>
>>> perhaps as was
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> intended "we move data around"). In general, I think Eric's
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> logos are
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> much more professional looking, but I cannot let go of the
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> notion of
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> cooperation exemplified by the shaking hands metaphor as an
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> important part
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> of what the GO-ESP is all about.<br>
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> Eric, care to have a go at cluttering up esp1.jpg with some
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> shaking> > > hands? <span class="moz-smiley-s3"><span> ;-)
>>>
>>> </span></span><br>> > > <br>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So as not to feel too guilty about all the energy going into
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> this, I
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> keep telling myself companies spend millions on this sort of
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> thing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <span class="moz-smiley-s6"><span> :-[ </span></span><br>
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> Roland<br>
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> Eric Marshall wrote:<br>
>>>
>>> <blockquote type="cite" cite= "mid40D08F40.1070509 at noaa.gov"
>>> <mailto:mid40D08F40.1070509 at noaa.gov> ><br>
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> Regarding issues of color-blindness, take a look at the clever
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> web page
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http:// <http://> " target="l"> http:// <http://> " target="l"> http://
>>> <http://> "> http:// <http://>
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> href=" www.vischeck.com/ <http://www.vischeck.com/> "
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> target="l"> www.vische <http://www.vische> "
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> target="l"> http://www.vischeck.com/vischeck/vischeckImage.php
>>> <http://www.vischeck.com/vischeck/vischeckImage.php> "> www.vische
>>> <http://www.vische> >
>>>
>>> ck.com/ vischeck/vischeckImage.php ; they transform your image into
>>> what
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> color-blind would see. They also have a page to do the same
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> for web
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> pages.
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> Attached are two logos which are color-blind friendly, less
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> horizontal> and somewhat different than Roland's.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> Eric W. Marshall
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> 609 452-6673
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> Raytheon on-site at:
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> P O Box
>>>
>>> 308
>>>
>>> Princeton NJ 08542 <br>
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> The opinions expressed in this message are my own and do not
>>>
>>> necessarily
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> reflect those of the Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Raytheon,> <br>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration,
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> nor the U. S. Department of Commerce.
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> From: "K. A. Bouton" >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> href= "mailto:k.a.bouton at reading.ac.uk"
>>> <mailto:k.a.bouton at reading.ac.uk> > ">
>>> <mailto:k.a.bouton at reading.ac.uk>
>>> <k.a.bouton at reading.ac.uk>>> > <br>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Date: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 5:39 am
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> Subject: RE: [ESP] Name, goals and logo
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> > Wow - impressed at th espeed with which you got this out!
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> > Just a note.
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> > Green (then red) is the color most not seen by color-blind
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> people.> <br>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > Anyway I
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> > remember a big CLIVAR fight over green/red logos...
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> > Katherine
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> > > -----Original Message-----
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> > > From: > href= "mailto:esp-bounces at ucar.edu"
>>> <mailto:esp-bounces at ucar.edu> >esp-
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> bounces at ucar.edu <mailto:bounces at ucar.edu> [<a
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
>>>
>>> href= "mailto:esp-bounces at ucar.edu" <mailto:esp-bounces at ucar.edu> >
>>> mailto:esp-bounces at ucar.edu <mailto:esp-bounces at ucar.edu> ]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On <br>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > > Behalf Of Roland Schweitzer
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> > > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 5:09 PM
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> > > To: > href= "mailto:esp at ucar.edu" <mailto:esp at ucar.edu> >
>>> esp at ucar.edu <mailto:esp at ucar.edu> <br>
>>>
>>> > > Subject: [ESP] Name, goals and logo
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> > >
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> > >
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> > > Hi Folks,
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> > >
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> > > Rather than wait for the wheels to turn to produce a
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> > > brilliant mission
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> > > statement with precise goals and a new name I
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> decided to
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> > > metaphorically
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> > > put pen to paper and create a logo which contains my
>>>
>>> suggestion
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> > for a
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> > > new name for the group. The attached PDF is the
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> result.> > > <br>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > >
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> > > N.B. The logo attempts to symbolized the key
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> components of
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> > > 1) data on
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> > > and about the earth (with no specific references to
>>>
>>> particular
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> > > continents or countries) and 2) cooperation (both via
>>>
>>> computer
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> > and by
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> > > humans) symbolically linked across the logo. The
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> suggested> <br>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > > name has the
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> > > old name embedded within it, but is different
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> enough (I
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> hope)> <br>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > > to avoid
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> > > confusion with the popular NASA project.
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> > >
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> > > There are three "logos". One plain, one with a
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "tag line"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> > > and one small
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> > > "brand" for placing on participant web pages where
>>>
>>> appropriate.
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> > >
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> > > Should in its wisdom (or dare I say lack there of) the
>>>
>>> collective
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> > > decides to go in a different direction, I will
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> happily use
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> > > what meager
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> > > skill I have to create a logo to match the final
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> decision.> > > <br>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > >
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> > > Roland
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> > >
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> > ESP mailing list
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> > > href= "mailto:ESP at ucar.edu" <mailto:ESP at ucar.edu> > ESP at ucar.edu
>>> <mailto:ESP at ucar.edu> <br>
>>>
>>> > > href= "http://mailman.ucar.edu" <http://mailman.ucar.edu>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> target="l"> http://mailman.u <http://mailman.u> "
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> target="l"> http://mailman.ucar.edu/mailman/listinfo/esp
>>> <http://mailman.ucar.edu/mailman/listinfo/esp> "> http://mailman.u
>>> <http://mailman.u> >
>>>
>>> car.edu>/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> mailman/listinfo/esp <br>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> <br>
>>>
>>> <hr width="90%" size="4"><br>
>>>
>>> <center><img
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> src="cid:part1.04010506.06070007 at noaa.gov"></center>> > > <p><br>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> </p>
>>>
>>> <hr width="90%" size="4"><br>
>>>
>>> <center><img
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> src="cid:part2.02000109.00070404 at noaa.gov"></center>> > >
>>>
>>> </blockquote>> > > </body>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> </html>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Bryan Lawrence, Head NCAS/British Atmospheric Data Centre
>>>
>>> Web: badc.nerc.ac.uk Phone: +44 1235 445012
>>>
>>> CCLRC: Rutherford Appleton Laboratory, Chilton, Didcot, OX11 0QX
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>>> ESP mailing list
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Eric W. Marshall
>>>
>>> 609 452-6673
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Raytheon on-site at:
>>>
>>> Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory
>>>
>>> P O Box 308 Princeton NJ 08542
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The opinions expressed in this message are my own and do not
>>> necessarily
>>>
>>> reflect those of the Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory, Raytheon,
>>>
>>> the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration,
>>>
>>> the International House of Pancakes nor the U. S. Department of
>>> Commerce.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ESP at ucar.edu <mailto:ESP at ucar.edu>
>>>
>>> http://mailman.ucar.edu/mailman/listinfo/esp
>>> <http://mailman.ucar.edu/mailman/listinfo/esp>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Bryan Lawrence, Head NCAS/British Atmospheric Data Centre
>> Web: badc.nerc.ac.uk Phone: +44 1235 445012
>> CCLRC: Rutherford Appleton Laboratory, Chilton, Didcot, OX11 0QX
>> _______________________________________________
>> ESP mailing list
>> ESP at ucar.edu
>> http://mailman.ucar.edu/mailman/listinfo/esp
>
>
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