[ESP] RE: ESP sourceforge

Dean N. Williams williams13@llnl.gov
Thu, 30 Jan 2003 04:25:16 -0800


Hi Kerstin,

    I agree! Your group can set up both the CVS repository and Source 
Forge. Thanks!
    Chris and Eric and anyone else can set a link to it if they wish.

Best regards,
    Dean

>Dear Dean,
>Andrew will set up a CVS repository, however I thought we needed to set up
>the Source forge here as well?
>Best wishes,
>Kerstin
>
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dean N. Williams [mailto:williams13@llnl.gov]
>Sent: 29 January 2003 19:49
>To: Woolf, A (Andrew)
>Cc: Esp (E-mail)
>Subject: Re: [ESP] RE: ESP sourceforge
>
>
>Hi Andrew,
>
>    Sourceforge is free and a great way to manage the code releases and 
>bug fixes.
>    I would definitely recommend this as a way to go. It shouldn't be 
>too hard for
>    Chris (or Eric) to setup. I think the first thing to do (that is, 
>once we have some
>    code to share) is to setup a CVS code repository. (I believe Kerstin 
>will be doing
>    this.)
>
>-Dean
>
>  
>
>>While sourceforge can certainly be used for generic web hosting, I'm
>>guessing Chris' page will point to the sourceforge for code development.
>>    
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>Was
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>>that the idea, Kerstin?
>>
>>Dean - comments on sf licences?
>>
>> 
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>>    
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>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Don Middleton [mailto:don@ucar.edu]
>>>Sent: 29 January 2003 17:58
>>>To: Woolf, A (Andrew) ; Kleese, K (Kerstin); Lawrence, BN (Bryan) 
>>>Cc: Don Middleton
>>>Subject: Re: ESP sourceforge
>>>
>>>
>>>Hi Andrew et al - Perhaps we should open up the discussion to 
>>>the list? At
>>>the very least, we should add Dean in as he's already got 
>>>CDAT on SF and has
>>>likely considered the license issues. So, 1) Chris will 
>>>almost certainly be
>>>crafting a project description for the website and we could 
>>>reuse here.
>>>Also, what's the relationship between Chris' website, the SF 
>>>site, and the
>>>future UK site? 2) As above, Dean (and probably others on the 
>>>list) could
>>>contribute and, 3) "esportal" seems like a good compromise to me.
>>>
>>>Might see you in Belgium!
>>>
>>>don
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Woolf, A (Andrew) " <A.Woolf@rl.ac.uk>
>>>To: "'Don Middleton'" <don@ucar.edu>; "Kleese, K (Kerstin)"
>>><K.Kleese@dl.ac.uk>; "Lawrence, BN (Bryan) " <B.N.Lawrence@rl.ac.uk>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 10:31 AM
>>>Subject: ESP sourceforge
>>>
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>>>>I was asked to set up an ESP sourceforge site.
>>>>
>>>>Terms and Conditions look reasonably innocuous, but include the
>>>>"...royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive and fully
>>>>sublicensable right and license to use, reproduce, modify, 
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>>>adapt, publish,
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>>>>translate, create derivative works from, distribute, 
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>>>perform and display
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>>>>[any uploaded material including source code] worldwide and/or to
>>>>incorporate it in other works in any form, media, or 
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>>>technology now known
>>>or
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>>>>later developed, all subject to the terms of any applicable approved
>>>>license". I assume everyone's OK with that. Full T&C if 
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>>>interested are at
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>>>>http://sourceforge.net/tos/tos.php.
>>>>
>>>>I need two things:
>>>>
>>>>1) A project description. Approval by sourceforge is based 
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>>>on this, so it
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>>>      
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>>>>needs to be reasonably detailed. I could have a shot, but 
>>>>     
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>>>wasn't actually
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>>>>there when ESP was invented, so please could someone else give me
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>>>something.
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>>>>2) Open-source licence. There around 40 canned choices
>>>>(http://www.opensource.org/licenses/) or we can request a 
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>>>custom one. I am
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>>>>no expert and haven't read them all, so maybe something 
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>>>short and sweet
>>>like
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>>>>the BSD or MIT would be best. Let me have your thoughts. 
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>>>Must this be ran
>>>by
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>>>>our legal/outreach dept's?
>>>>
>>>>Finally, there is already a sourceforge ESP project
>>>>(http://sourceforge.net/projects/esp/), so we'll need 
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>>>another short name.
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>>>>Perhaps esportal?
>>>>
>>>>- Andrew
>>>>
>>>>-----------------------------------------------------
>>>>Dr Andrew Woolf (a.woolf@rl.ac.uk)
>>>>Data Management Group, e-Science Centre
>>>>Rutherford Appleton Lab,
>>>>Chilton, Didcot,
>>>>Oxon., OX11 0QX, UK
>>>>Ph: +44 (0)1235 778027
>>>>http://www.escience.clrc.ac.uk/person/a.woolf
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