<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I can also confirm what Bob and David suggested...I had the same problem for 4/3-km simulations, and solved it the same way ( don't recall if we did 4 or 5 smoothing passes).<div><br></div><div>What I do recall is that the resultant smoothing of the terrain is not as drastic as one might fear from 5 smoothing passes. The differences are noticeable, but most of the hi-res structure in the terrain is still there. And the WRF crash problem goes away.</div><div><br></div><div>Mark</div><div><br><div>
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<br><div><div>On Mar 4, 2010, at 1:17 PM, David Ovens wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>All,<br><br>Bob's suggestion about using a different smoothing option in geogrid<br>is the only way I've been able to consistently run at 4/3-km<br>resolution over a region that covers Whistler, BC. We have to do 5<br>smoothing passes. <br><br>So, in geogrid/GEOGRID.TBL.ARW for all <br><br> name = HGT_M<br> name = HGT_U<br> name = HGT_V<br><br>I have <br><br> smooth_option = smth-desmth_special; smooth_passes=5<br><br>That has worked very well. We had the same problems trying all of the<br>other things that Bob mentions.<br><br>Note that we run our high resolution run after running ndown.exe, so<br>we're able to use smooth_passes=1 for the topography of our coarser<br>domains. <br><br>David<br>-- <br>David Ovens<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span> e-mail: <a href="mailto:ovens@atmos.washington.edu">ovens@atmos.washington.edu</a><br>Research Meteorologist phone: (206) 685-8108<br>Dept of Atm. Sciences plan: Real-time MM5 forecasting for the<br>Box 351640 Pacific Northwest<br>University of Washington <a href="http://www.atmos.washington.edu/mm5rt">http://www.atmos.washington.edu/mm5rt</a><br>Seattle, WA 98195 Weather Graphics and Loops<br> <a href="http://www.atmos.washington.edu/~ovens/loops">http://www.atmos.washington.edu/~ovens/loops</a><br><br>On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 11:47:40AM -0700, Dumais, Bob (Civ, ARL/CISD) wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">Classification: UNCLASSIFIED<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Caveats: NONE<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">All,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> I found this issue as well, over very steep terrain regions.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">For example, I tried running WRF in triple nest to 300 m grid spacing<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">over the White Sands Missile Range, Nm area (2.7 km; 900m; 300 m using<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">NAM 218 ICs and LBCs). Simply interpolating to 300 m from the default<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">USGS 1 km data worked fine. However, trying to run with 300 m terrain<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">generated from higher resolution NEDS arc 1 sec data causes the model to<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">crash everytime no matter which case/external dataset I try. It always<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">happens within the first 2 min of model integration. It looks like a<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">singular point blows up/produces an instability where there is a very<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">steep model terrain slope. In fact, trying to run a grid recently for<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">the Olympic venue region near Whistler, BC the same thing happened. Blow<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">ups (CFL violations due to big values of W) in low levels at a single<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">steep slope point in the domain, within 2 min of integration. This was<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">for a 1 km grid spacing domain where the terrain was generated from the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">default 1 km USGS data! At 3 km grid spacing, the model runs fine. <br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> In the BC domain, I believe the "magic" point where things were<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">blowing up was found to be found near 50.13 N and -123.625. It is not a<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">boundary point. I have tried very small time steps, different vertical<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">grid structures, microphysics, radiation, PBL physics, land surface, 6th<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">order diffusion strength, and even divergence damping strength (smdiv in<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">namelist). Nothing things to prevent this for the WSMR or Whistler areas<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I mentioned. I am cc'ing Dr Jimy Dudhia this email, since I think he may<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">be able to add something regarding this possible model slope issue. I<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">notice that in my cases where the instabilities occur, model slopes are<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">pretty high and may be approaching 45 deg. My gut feeling is that slope<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">may become an issue for some domains at grid spacings about 1 km or<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">less. Maybe a different terrain smoothing option in geogrid could help??<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Where are you running your model?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Bob<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">-----Original Message-----<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">From: <a href="mailto:wrf-users-bounces@ucar.edu">wrf-users-bounces@ucar.edu</a> [mailto:wrf-users-bounces@ucar.edu] On<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Behalf Of Min Zhu<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 3:34 AM<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">To: <a href="mailto:wrf-users@ucar.edu">wrf-users@ucar.edu</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Subject: Re: [Wrf-users] Upper boundary cfl error<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Hi,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">It seems that the problem is in lower boundary rather than upper<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">boundary. Also your time step seems to be bigger.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Cheers,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Min Zhu<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Meso-scale Wind Modeller<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">D +44 (0)1923 299 360<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">RES Group, registered in England and Wales with Company Number 1589961<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Registered Office: Beaufort Court, Egg Farm Lane, Kings Langley,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Hertfordshire WD4 8LR<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">P please consider the environment - do you really need to print this<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">email?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">From: <a href="mailto:wrf-users-bounces@ucar.edu">wrf-users-bounces@ucar.edu</a> [mailto:wrf-users-bounces@ucar.edu] On<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Behalf Of Andre Pattantyus<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Sent: 04 March 2010 00:11<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">To: <a href="mailto:wrf-users@ucar.edu">wrf-users@ucar.edu</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Subject: [Wrf-users] Upper boundary cfl error<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Hi all,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I am getting these few errors at my upper boundary. Among other things,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I have tried using the new damping option, diff_opt =2, because I am<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">using running towards an LES in my inner domain. A solution seems easy<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">but so far my attempts have not yielded success. below is my namelist.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">3 points exceeded cfl=2 in domain d03 at time 2006-03-29_12:00:16 hours<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> MAX AT i,j,k: 40 80 4 vert_cfl,w,d(eta)= 2.263442993 -80.54151917<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">0.2999961376E-02<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> 3 points exceeded cfl=2 in domain d03 at time 2006-03-29_12:00:16<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">hours<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> MAX AT i,j,k: 40 80 4 vert_cfl,w,d(eta)= 2.485260963 13.09560013<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">0.2999961376E-02<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> 3 points exceeded cfl=2 in domain d03 at time 2006-03-29_12:00:16<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">hours<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> MAX AT i,j,k: 41 80 4 vert_cfl,w,d(eta)= 2.567909241 -117.0119095<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">0.2999961376E-02<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> 22 points exceeded cfl=2 in domain d03 at time<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">2006-03-29_12:00:16+08/09 hours<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> MAX AT i,j,k: 40 80 4 vert_cfl,w,d(eta)= 6.311451435 -170.4623871<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">0.2999961376E-02<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> 36 points exceeded cfl=2 in domain d03 at time<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">2006-03-29_12:00:16+08/09 hours<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> MAX AT i,j,k: 40 80 3 vert_cfl,w,d(eta)= 6.109247208 -223.6106720<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">0.2799987793E-02<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> AVOST IN VILKA<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">~<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">~<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">~<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> &time_control<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> run_days = 2,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> run_hours = 36,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> run_minutes = 0,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> run_seconds = 0,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> start_year = 2006, 2006, 2006,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> start_month = 03, 03, 03,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> start_day = 29, 29, 29,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> start_hour = 12, 12, 12,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> start_minute = 00, 00, 00,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> start_second = 00, 00, 00,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> end_year = 2006, 2006, 2006,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> end_month = 03, 03, 03,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> end_day = 31, 31, 31,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> end_hour = 00, 00, 00,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> end_minute = 00, 00, 00,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> end_second = 00, 00, 00,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> interval_seconds = 10800<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> input_from_file = .true.,.true.,.true.,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> history_interval = 60, 60, 60,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> frames_per_outfile = 1000, 1000, 1000,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> restart = .false.,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> restart_interval = 720,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> io_form_history = 2<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> io_form_restart = 2<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> io_form_input = 2<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> io_form_boundary = 2<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> debug_level = 0<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> /<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> &domains<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> time_step = 8,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> time_step_fract_num = 0,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> time_step_fract_den = 1,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> max_dom = 3,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> e_we = 121, 169, 241,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> e_sn = 121, 169, 241,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> e_vert = 61, 61, 61,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> p_top_requested = 5000,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> num_metgrid_levels = 40,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> num_metgrid_soil_levels = 4,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> dx = 4500, 1500, 500,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> dy = 4500, 1500, 500,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> grid_id = 1, 2, 3,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> parent_id = 0, 1, 2,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> i_parent_start = 1, 33, 53,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> j_parent_start = 1, 33, 53,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> parent_grid_ratio = 1, 3, 3,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> parent_time_step_ratio = 1, 3, 3,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> feedback = 0,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> smooth_option = 0,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> eta_levels = 1.0000, .9976, .9948, .9920,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">.9890,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">.9858, .9825, .9790, .9754, .9718, .9679, .9637, .9590, .9538, .9480,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">.9415, .9340, .9251, .9144, .9020, .8883, .8736, .8582, .8420, .8253,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">.8079, .7900, .7714, .7523, .7326, .7124, .6915, .6699, .6477, .6248,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">.6015, .5779, .5540, .5300, .5057, .4812, .4566, .4319, .4070, .3822,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">.3576, .3333, .3100, .2881, .2679, .2494, .2316, .2135, .1936, .1707,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">.1445, .1159, .0863, .0569, .0282, .0000, /<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> &physics<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> mp_physics = 8, 8, 8,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> ra_lw_physics = 1, 1, 1,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> ra_sw_physics = 2, 2, 2,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> radt = 4, 4, 4,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> sf_sfclay_physics = 4, 4, 4,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> sf_surface_physics = 3, 3, 3,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> bl_pbl_physics = 4, 4, 4,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> bldt = 0, 0, 0,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> cu_physics = 0, 0, 0,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> cudt = 0, 0, 0,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> isfflx = 1,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> ifsnow = 0,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> icloud = 1,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> surface_input_source = 1,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> num_soil_layers = 6,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> sf_urban_physics = 0,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> maxiens = 1,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> maxens = 3,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> maxens2 = 3,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> maxens3 = 16,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> ensdim = 144,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> slope_rad = 1, 1, 1,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> topo_shading = 1, 1, 1,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> shadlen = 25000.,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> /<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> &fdda<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> /<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> &dynamics<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> w_damping = 1,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> diff_opt = 2,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> km_opt = 4,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> diff_6th_opt = 2, 2, 2,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> diff_6th_factor = 0.12, 0.12, 0.12,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> base_temp = 290.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> damp_opt = 3,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> zdamp = 5000., 5000., 5000.,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> dampcoef = 0.2, 0.2, 0.2<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> khdif = 0, 0, 0,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> kvdif = 0, 0, 0,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> non_hydrostatic = .true., .true., .true.,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> moist_adv_opt = 1, 1, 1,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> scalar_adv_opt = 1, 1, 1,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> /<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> &bdy_control<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> spec_bdy_width = 5,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> spec_zone = 1,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> relax_zone = 4,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> specified = .true., .false.,.false.,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> nested = .false., .true., .true.,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> /<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> &grib2<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> /<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> &namelist_quilt<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> nio_tasks_per_group = 0,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> nio_groups = 1,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">--<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Andre Pattantyus, Graduate Student Research Assistant Marine and<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Environmental Systems, 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