<div dir="ltr"><div><div>I will look into this when I get a chance.<br><br></div>Cheers<br></div>D<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 9:03 AM, Carl Schreck <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cjschrec@ncsu.edu" target="_blank">cjschrec@ncsu.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">That's a great catch. The way I handle it is:<div><br></div><div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> ; calculate the PCs</font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> retVal = eofunc_ts_Wrap( data(var|:,lon|:,time|:), eof, False )</font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"><br></font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> do e = 0, nEof-1</font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> retVal(e,:) = ( retVal(e,:) + retVal@ts_mean(e) ) / pcStddev(e)</font></div><div><font face="monospace, monospace"> end do</font></div></div><div><br></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Where pcStddev is the standard deviation calculated from the original PCs over a 30+ year period.</font></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">It would be great if eofunc_ts had an option to not subtract the mean automatically.</font></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Carl</font></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 12:34 AM, Eun-Pa Lim <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:eun-pa.lim@bom.gov.au" target="_blank">eun-pa.lim@bom.gov.au</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5">
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<p>My colleagues Harry Hendon and Abhik Santra at the Bureau of Meteorology want to report an issue regarding the computation of the RMM1 and RMM2 time series (eof_ts_cdata) and the expansion coefficients of olr, u200 and u850 (ceof_ts) in mjoclivar_14.ncl. </p>
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<p>Harry and Abhik were trying to replace cdata with forecast data of a particular year to see if forecast amplitudes of RMM1 and RMM2 are realistic or not. </p>
<p>Because eofunc_ts_Wrap removes the time mean of the input data by default (i.e. 1-year time mean of forecast data for their case), their forecast MJO amplitudes were systematically biased. <br>
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<p>This problem will occur when people try to compute the MJO amplitues with a subset of a dataset.<br>
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<p>Could you please add a comment where eof_ts_cdata and ceof_ts appear in mjoclivar_14.ncl that users should compute the expansion coefficients manually rather than using eofunc_ts_Wrap if the removal of the time mean of the input data is not intended/desirable?<br>
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<p>Please let me know if what I've explained is not clear. <br>
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<p>Many thanks!<br>
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