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    Hi Luca,<br>
    <br>
    Thanks for the details below.&nbsp; We're getting proper CMIP5 related
    group attributes from the Attribute Service (ATS) at pcmdi9 when
    asserting the CMIP5 related data access attributes as you note.<br>
    <br>
    We need to make a few changes to the Gateway to issue these SAML
    requests in support of end-to-end authorized file downloads from the
    TDS at ESG-NCAR.<br>
    <br>
    The CMIP5 download tests noted below as not requiring CMIP5
    registration for access were made to the GFDL datanode.&nbsp; Other nodes
    tested (e.g. pcmdi9, CMCC.it) require CMIP5 registration as
    expected.<br>
    <br>
    I'll let you know once this is deployed to the production ESG-NCAR
    Gateway and pcmdi9 OpenIDs can successfully download.&nbsp; A number of
    folks are out on vacation, so it may be a bit until this is ready.<br>
    <br>
    -Eric<br>
    <br>
    On 8/2/2012 12:33 PM, Cinquini, Luca (3880) wrote:
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      cite="mid:7AEA50E4-58F8-4288-A746-7982BE90EB65@jpl.nasa.gov"
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      Hi Nathan:
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          <div>On Aug 2, 2012, at 9:13 AM, Nathan Hook wrote:</div>
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            <div>Hi Karl and Luca,<br>
              <br>
              To be clear authentication (authN) is working, the error
              that you're both seeing is an authorization (authZ) issue.<br>
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          yes correct.<br>
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            <div><br>
              When we make a request to the saml attribute service at
              pcmdi9 (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://pcmdi9.llnl.gov/esgf-idp/saml/soap/secure/attributeService.htm">https://pcmdi9.llnl.gov/esgf-idp/saml/soap/secure/attributeService.htm</a>)
              we always get an attribute response that has a &nbsp;user's
              first name, last name, and email, but no listing of groups
              to which that user belongs.<br>
              <br>
              We have tried the following openids in the saml attribute
              request:<br>
              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="https://pcmdi9.llnl.gov/esgf-idp/openid/nathanhook">https://pcmdi9.llnl.gov/esgf-idp/openid/nathanhook</a><br>
              <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.earthsystemgrid.org/myopenid/nhook">https://www.earthsystemgrid.org/myopenid/nhook</a><br>
              <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://pcmdi9.llnl.gov/esgf-idp/openid/lucacinquini">https://pcmdi9.llnl.gov/esgf-idp/openid/lucacinquini</a><br>
              <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://pcmdi3.llnl.gov/esgcet/myopenid/oscar.nienhouse">https://pcmdi3.llnl.gov/esgcet/myopenid/oscar.nienhouse</a><br>
              <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://pcmdi9.llnl.gov/esgf-idp/openid/taylor13">https://pcmdi9.llnl.gov/esgf-idp/openid/taylor13</a><br>
              <br>
              Since we're not getting back any group information from
              the saml requests, our system seems to be doing the
              correct behavior (denying access) at this time.<br>
              <br>
              Is there a different way that we should be authorizing a
              user's access to cmip5 data?<br>
            </div>
          </blockquote>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>Please see below for an example of SAML request to the
            pcmdi9 attribute service, and correspondent HTTP response.
            Basically, if the client asks for the attributes named
            "CMIP5 Commercial" and "CMIP5 Research", their values will
            be returned, if found (i.e. the user has obtained CMIP5
            membership).</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <blockquote type="cite">
            <div><br>
              FYI, I was able to download data directly from <a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://pcmdi9.llnl.gov/esgf-web-fe/">
                http://pcmdi9.llnl.gov/esgf-web-fe/</a> with both my
              pcmdi9 and <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.earthsystemgrid.org">
                www.earthsystemgrid.org</a> openids without having to
              request access to the cmipi5 group. &nbsp;Has group
              registration been turned off or is group registration no
              longer required to access cmip5 data?</div>
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        </div>
        <div>The security enforcement is really established by the data
          node, not the web-fe. Which dataset were you trying to
          download ? I know GFDL provides free access to their data, all
          other data nodes should require CMIP5 membership. I just
          verified that, with a new pcmdi9 openid, I am asked to
          register when requesting data from the pcmdi9 datanode.&nbsp;</div>
        <div>Also, the old memberships have been transferred to the new
          system, so your <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="http://www.earthsystemgrid.org">
            www.earthsystemgrid.org</a> openid should already be
          enabled. I can only explain the success of your pcmsi9 openid
          if:</div>
        <div>a) somehow you had enrolled in CMIP5 at some point</div>
        <div>b) or, you were really downloading free data from GFDL</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>thanks, Luca</div>
        <div><br>
          <blockquote type="cite">
            <div><br>
              Thank you for your time.<br>
              <br>
              Warm Regards,<br>
              <br>
              Nathan H.<br>
              <br>
              <br>
              PS: &nbsp;We also tried all the above openids against the
              attribute service at pcmdi7 (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://pcmdi7.llnl.gov/esgf-security/saml/soap/secure/attributeService.htm">https://pcmdi7.llnl.gov/esgf-security/saml/soap/secure/attributeService.htm</a>).
              &nbsp;All the pcmdi9 openids returned an UnknownPrincipal
              response, while the <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.earthsystemgrid.org">
                www.earthsystemgrid.org</a> and pcmdi3 openids returned
              appropriate group information.<br>
            </div>
          </blockquote>
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            version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?&gt;&lt;soap11:Envelope
            xmlns:soap11="<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/">http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/</a>"&gt;</div>
          <div>&nbsp; &nbsp;&lt;soap11:Body&gt;</div>
          <div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;saml2p:AttributeQuery
            xmlns:saml2p="urn:oasis:names:tc:SAML:2.0:protocol"
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            IssueInstant="2012-08-02T18:21:03.380Z" Version="2.0"&gt;</div>
          <div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&lt;saml2:Issuer
            xmlns:saml2="urn:oasis:names:tc:SAML:2.0:assertion"
            Format="urn:oasis:names:tc:SAML:1.1:nameid-format:X509SubjectName"&gt;ESGF
            Authorization Service&lt;/saml2:Issuer&gt;</div>
          <div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&lt;saml2:Subject
            xmlns:saml2="urn:oasis:names:tc:SAML:2.0:assertion"&gt;</div>
          <div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;saml2:NameID Format="urn:esg:openid"&gt;<b><a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="https://pcmdi9.llnl.gov/esgf-idp/openid/lucacinquini">https://pcmdi9.llnl.gov/esgf-idp/openid/lucacinquini</a></b>&lt;/saml2:NameID&gt;</div>
          <div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&lt;/saml2:Subject&gt;</div>
          <div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&lt;saml2:Attribute
            xmlns:saml2="urn:oasis:names:tc:SAML:2.0:assertion"
            Name="CMIP5 Commercial" NameFormat="<a
              moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#string">http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#string</a>"/&gt;</div>
          <div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&lt;saml2:Attribute
            xmlns:saml2="urn:oasis:names:tc:SAML:2.0:assertion" Name="<b>CMIP5
              Research</b>" NameFormat="<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#string">http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#string</a>"/&gt;</div>
          <div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&lt;saml2:Attribute
            xmlns:saml2="urn:oasis:names:tc:SAML:2.0:assertion"
            Name="urn:esg:group:role" NameFormat="<a
              moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#string">http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#string</a>"/&gt;</div>
          <div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/saml2p:AttributeQuery&gt;</div>
          <div>&nbsp; &nbsp;&lt;/soap11:Body&gt;</div>
          <div>&lt;/soap11:Envelope&gt;</div>
          <div><br>
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          <div>[DEBUG] esg.security.common.SOAPServiceClient: Response
            header name=Server value=Apache-Coyote/1.1</div>
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            header name=Content-Length value=1760</div>
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            header name=Date value=Thu, 02 Aug 2012 18:21:03 GMT</div>
          <div>[DEBUG] esg.security.common.SOAPServiceClient: &lt;?xml
            version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?&gt;&lt;soap11:Envelope
            xmlns:soap11="<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/">http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/</a>"&gt;</div>
          <div>&nbsp; &nbsp;&lt;soap11:Body&gt;</div>
          <div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;saml2p:Response
            xmlns:saml2p="urn:oasis:names:tc:SAML:2.0:protocol"
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            InResponseTo="63c0c153-a6dc-42d7-9b50-30801c9f3d57"
            IssueInstant="2012-08-02T18:21:03.528Z" Version="2.0"&gt;</div>
          <div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&lt;saml2:Issuer
            xmlns:saml2="urn:oasis:names:tc:SAML:2.0:assertion"
            Format="urn:oasis:names:tc:SAML:1.1:nameid-format:X509SubjectName"&gt;ESGF
            Attribute Service&lt;/saml2:Issuer&gt;</div>
          <div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&lt;saml2p:Status&gt;</div>
          <div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;saml2p:StatusCode
            Value="urn:oasis:names:tc:SAML:2.0:status:Success"/&gt;</div>
          <div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&lt;/saml2p:Status&gt;</div>
          <div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&lt;saml2:Assertion
            xmlns:saml2="urn:oasis:names:tc:SAML:2.0:assertion"
            ID="51ca7a30-42a4-4af5-b704-275e4cc5b91d"
            IssueInstant="2012-08-02T18:21:03.531Z" Version="2.0"&gt;</div>
          <div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;saml2:Issuer
            Format="urn:oasis:names:tc:SAML:1.1:nameid-format:X509SubjectName"&gt;ESGF
            Attribute Service&lt;/saml2:Issuer&gt;</div>
          <div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;saml2:Subject&gt;</div>
          <div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&lt;saml2:NameID
            Format="urn:esg:openid"&gt;<b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="https://pcmdi9.llnl.gov/esgf-idp/openid/lucacinquini">https://pcmdi9.llnl.gov/esgf-idp/openid/lucacinquini</a></b>&lt;/saml2:NameID&gt;</div>
          <div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/saml2:Subject&gt;</div>
          <div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;saml2:Conditions
            NotBefore="2012-08-02T18:21:03.531Z"
            NotOnOrAfter="2012-08-03T18:21:03.531Z"/&gt;</div>
          <div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;saml2:AttributeStatement&gt;</div>
          <div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&lt;saml2:Attribute Name="<b>CMIP5
              Research</b>" NameFormat="<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#string">http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#string</a>"&gt;</div>
          <div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;saml2:AttributeValue xmlns:xs="<a
              moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema">http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema</a>"
            xmlns:xsi="<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance">http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance</a>"
            xsi:type="xs:string"&gt;<b>user</b>&lt;/saml2:AttributeValue&gt;</div>
          <div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&lt;/saml2:Attribute&gt;</div>
          <div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/saml2:AttributeStatement&gt;</div>
          <div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&lt;/saml2:Assertion&gt;</div>
          <div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;/saml2p:Response&gt;</div>
          <div>&nbsp; &nbsp;&lt;/soap11:Body&gt;</div>
          <div>&lt;/soap11:Envelope&gt;</div>
          <div><br>
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              <br>
              <br>
              On 8/1/2012 9:36 AM, Karl Taylor wrote:<br>
              <blockquote type="cite">Hi Nate,<br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">Even with a pcmdi9 openid, I get
                this error:<br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">so something is not quite right
                yet.<br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">thanks,<br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">Karl<br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite"><br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">On 8/1/12 7:52 AM, Cinquini, Luca
                (3880) wrote:<br>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">Hi Nate,<br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-tab-span"
                    style="white-space:pre"></span>thanks, this is a
                  good step forward. I noticed the following though:<br>
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                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">o The authorization system on
                  the TDS server still doesn't seem to be compatible
                  with P2P - I got an "Access Denied" when trying to
                  download a file with my CMIP5-enabled pcmdi9 openid.<br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">o Is there any plan to support
                  authentication with any P2P openid, not just pcmdi9 ?<br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite"><br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">thanks, Luca<br>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
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              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">On Jul 31, 2012, at 2:16 PM,
                  Nathan Wilhelmi wrote:<br>
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                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">Hello,<br>
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              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">To follow up from the last
                    telco, PCMDI9 OpenID's can now be used at the<br>
                  </blockquote>
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              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">NCAR site.<br>
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                  <blockquote type="cite">Thanks!<br>
                  </blockquote>
                </blockquote>
              </blockquote>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <blockquote type="cite">-Nate<br>
                  </blockquote>
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                  <blockquote type="cite">_______________________________________________<br>
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                  href="mailto:GO-ESSP-TECH@ucar.edu">GO-ESSP-TECH@ucar.edu</a><br>
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                  href="http://mailman.ucar.edu/mailman/listinfo/go-essp-tech">http://mailman.ucar.edu/mailman/listinfo/go-essp-tech</a><br>
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