<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Dear Karl and all,<div><br></div><div>that is indeed not what was intended and slipped through.</div><div><br></div><div>The unit should not be in "sulphur" but in "sulphate". As indicated in the unit kg m-2 s-1. I would expect the use of kgS m-2 s-1 if intended otherwise.</div><div><br></div><div>But now indeed it is written sulphur. I would think most people did not notice this standard name and data will be in sulphate unit. But this is not sure and might be a problem in interpretation of course. Probably nothing can be done about CMIP5. In Aerocom we try to check budgets "all-the-time" and then such factor 3 differences mostly surface.</div><div><br></div><div>regards</div><div>Michael <br><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>Am 14 Jun 2012 um 19:09 schrieb Karl Taylor:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <font face="Times New Roman">Dear </font>Michael and all,<br> <br> I have received an question (see below) from Mark wondering if there is a typo in the CMIP5 "aero" table. Here is the entry:<br> <br> 1 Wet Deposition Rate of SO4 kg m-2 s-1 wetso4 tendency_of_atmosphere_mass_content_of_sulfate_expressed_as_sulfur_dry_aerosol_due_to_wet_deposition<br> <br> I would note that the standard name above is an alias for <br> tendency_of_atmosphere_mass_content_of_sulfate_dry_aerosol_expressed_as_sulfur_due_to_wet_deposition<br> <br> Anyway, just wanted you to confirm I hadn't transcribed anything incorrectly. <br> <br> Even if there is some "inconsistency" in units between wetso4 and related variables, I think it is too late to change the CMIP5 specifications. But we might want to rethink what we request the next time around.<br> <br> best regards,<br> Karl<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/13/12 8:14 PM, mark collier wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote cite="mid:6D20618E-DD7A-4413-855D-7B7E6C740BAE@csiro.au" type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 128, 128); font-family: Arial; font-size: small; ">We just noticed that f</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 128, 128); font-family: Arial; font-size: small; "><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: teal; font-size: 10pt; ">or the field wetso4 (Wet Deposition Rate of SO4) in table aero, the requested units say "tendency_of_atmosphere_mass_content_of_sulfate_expressed_as_</span></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 128, 128); font-family: Arial; font-size: small; "><strong><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: red; font-size: 10pt; ">sulfur</span></strong></span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(0, 128, 128); font-family: Arial; font-size: small; "><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: teal; font-size: 10pt; ">_dry_aerosol_due_to_wet_deposition". We wonder if that was the intention, or if it is a typo, as every other variable was requested in units of species (SO4, SO2 or DMS), not sulfur. 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