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    <font face="Times New Roman">Dear </font>Lawson,<br>
    <br>
    The problem is that the gridspec filenames have already been written
    into perhaps 100's of thousands of CMIP5 files, since it should
    appear in the "associated_files" global attribute.  Below I've
    copied the output requirement defining this attribute.<br>
    <br>
    I understand that searching for all "fx" fields by parsing the file
    names will miss the gridspec files (unless you build in a bit more
    logic), but why not simply do a couple more searches to find all the
    files starting with "gridspec" to supplement what you found looking
    for "fx"?  I'm sure you've already thought of other work arounds
    that are probably better than this.<br>
    <br>
    By the way, although these hooks are in place, they don't yet lead
    you to the gridspec files.  We haven't  gotten to that yet.<br>
    <br>
    best regards,<br>
    Karl<br>
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          style="mso-list:Ignore">&#8594; </span></span><!--[endif]-->associated_files
      = a string
      listing the base URL for CMIP5 and the location of the model’s
      gridspec file,
      followed, as appropriate, by the name of the file containing the
      grid cell
      areas and/or grid cell volumes.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">  </span>For
CMIP5
      this string is:<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">  </span>"baseURL:<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://cmip-pcmdi.llnl.gov/CMIP5/dataLocation">http://cmip-pcmdi.llnl.gov/CMIP5/dataLocation</a><span
        style="mso-spacerun:yes">  </span>gridspecFile:&lt;gridspec
      file name&gt;
      [areacella:&lt;atmos. cell area file name&gt;]
      [areacello:&lt;ocean cell area
      file name] [volcello:&lt;ocean cell volume file name&gt;]”, where
      cell area and
      cell volume are only sometimes required.<span
        style="mso-spacerun:yes"> 
      </span>Here is an example: <o:p></o:p></p>
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        style="mso-spacerun:yes">   </span>associated_files=<o:p></o:p></p>
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        style="mso-spacerun:yes">       </span>“baseURL:
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://cmip-pcmdi.llnl.gov/CMIP5/dataLocation">http://cmip-pcmdi.llnl.gov/CMIP5/dataLocation</a><span
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        style="mso-spacerun:yes">       </span>gridspecFile:
      gridspec_ocean_fx_IPSL-CM5_historical_r0i0p0.nc <o:p></o:p></p>
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        style="mso-spacerun:yes">       </span>areacello:
      areacello_fx_IPSL-CM5_historical_r0i0p0.nc <o:p></o:p></p>
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        style="mso-spacerun:yes">       </span>volcello:
      volcello_fx_IPSL-CM5_historical_r0i0p0.nc”<span
        style="mso-spacerun:yes">  </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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          style="mso-list:Ignore">&#8594; </span></span><!--[endif]--><span
        style="mso-spacerun:yes">   </span>Note that the “cell_measures”
      column (U) of
      the <a
        href="http://pcmdi-cmip.llnl.gov/cmip5/docs/standard_output.pdf">CMIP5
Requested
        Output</a> tables indicates whether or not areacella, areacello,
      and/or volcello should be included as associated_files.<span
        style="mso-spacerun:yes">  </span>For each model version and
      experiment, only
      one area field is requested by CMIP5 for the atmosphere and only
      one area and
      one volume field are requested for the ocean.<span
        style="mso-spacerun:yes"> 
      </span>These cell areas should be defined such that exact global
      integrals of
      energy fluxes at the surface and “top of the atmosphere” can be
      computed.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">  </span>It is understood
      that for some staggered
      grids, the meshes for horizontal velocities might be offset from
      the radiation
      points, so in these cases exact global integrals of momentum would
      require
      areas not requested by CMIP5.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">  </span>In
      the
      associated_files attribute, include references to areacella,
      areacello, and
      volcello only for variables carried on the same mesh as the areas
      and volumes
      (i.e., only when it is appropriate to do so).<o:p></o:p></p>
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    On 6/6/12 2:46 PM, Lawson Hanson wrote:
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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            New&quot;;color:#1F497D">Dear Karl,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D">In section 3.3 CMIP filename
            encoding, (page 10 of your DRS "v1-3-1-marked" document)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D">    there is mention of the single
            exception for "gridspec" files:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D">    In CMIP5 there is a single
            exception to use of the above template.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D">    For so-called gridspec files,
            which describe the grids used in a model,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D">    the filename should be
            constructed as follows:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D">    gridspec filename =
            gridspec_&lt;modeling
            realm&gt;_fx_&lt;model&gt;_&lt;experiment&gt;_r0i0p0.nc<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D">    where &lt;modeling realm&gt; is
            now included and the variable name<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D">    is replaced by “grid_spec”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D">    Note also that this is a
            time-independent field, so the CMIP5 table<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D">    is “fx” and the ensemble member
            is set to “r0i0p0”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D">    Example:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D">      •
            gridspec_atmos_fx_IPSL-CM5_historical_r0i0p0.nc<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D">My Question:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D">    Is there any way that this
            could be re-defined so that the &lt;modeling realm&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D">    element is moved across to be
            after the &lt;ensemble member&gt; element?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D">    This just seems to make more
            sense to me, and keeps more of the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D">    file name template (from left
            to right) consistent with the 99.99%<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D">    of other CMIP5 file names.  If
            this was adopted, the new template<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D">    for a gridspec file would
            become:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D">    gridspec filename =
            gridspec_fx_&lt;model&gt;_&lt;experiment&gt;_r0i0p0_&lt;modeling
            realm&gt;.nc<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D">    and the example would be:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D">      •
            gridspec_fx_IPSL-CM5_historical_r0i0p0_atmos.nc<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D">The combination of the unique
            'r0i0p0' (&lt;ensemble member&gt;) element,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D">    followed by the &lt;modeling
            realm&gt; element in the filename template<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D">    makes it far easier to parse a
            list of thousands of file names<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D">    to find all of those where the
            second field (&lt;mip table&gt;) is 'fx',<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D">    or 'Amon', or 'OImon', or
            'day', etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D">Thank you for your consideration of
            this request.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D">Lawson Hanson<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D">-------------<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D">    CAWCR, Climate Variability and
            Change group,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D">    Climate Change Science team,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D">    Bureau of Meteorology, 700
            Collins Street,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D">    Melbourne Docklands, VIC 3008,
            Australia<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier
            New&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <div>
          <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:windowtext"
                  lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:windowtext"
                lang="EN-US"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:go-essp-tech-bounces@ucar.edu">go-essp-tech-bounces@ucar.edu</a>
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:go-essp-tech-bounces@ucar.edu">mailto:go-essp-tech-bounces@ucar.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf Of
                </b>Karl Taylor<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 7 June 2012 6:58 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Kettleborough, Jamie; V. Balaji; Steve
                Hankin; Martin Juckes; Bryan Lawrence; Stephen Pascoe;
                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:go-essp-tech@ucar.edu">go-essp-tech@ucar.edu</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Go-essp-tech] DRS corrections and
                extensions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          </div>
        </div>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Dear all,<br>
          <br>
          In February I asked for comments on my proposal to extend the
          DRS to  include information about spatio-temporal subsets or
          means.  I heard from Jamie, but no one else.  I respond to
          Jamie below, but I also would like your input specifically
          about:<br>
          <br>
          1.  Is this method of describing spatio-temporal subsets
          acceptable?<br>
          2.  Is it worth taking this step if we don't say anything
          about other "processed" output?   For example how to describe
          "regridded" data or multi-model means.<br>
          <br>
          I've attached the proposed version of the DRS, which differs
          from the one I sent in January only in a couple mods made in
          response to Jamie.<br>
          <br>
          Best regards,<br>
          Karl<br>
          <br>
          On 2/13/12 6:47 AM, Kettleborough, Jamie wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:blue">Hello
            Karl,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:blue">this
            will be terse as I have time to review, but not to
            necessarily get the words right - hope I don't say anything
            too bad because of this.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:blue">1.
            section 2.3,  Not sure 'output' should be mentioned under
            'product'.  I don't think 'output' ever makes it to
            publication level, so does not need to appear in a
            publication level id.  I know cmor produces it, but I think
            that's kind of historical isn't it, rather than necessary? 
            Maybe its too late for details like this?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">It's true that in the end the CMIP5 output
          should not remain as "output", but be assigned to "output1" or
          "output2".  Nevertheless, I don't think there is any harm in
          keeping it in the DRS.  <br>
          <br>
          <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:blue">2.
            section 2.3 version number: to be consistent with what we
            really have in CMIP5 I think you need to note that v1, v2
            are also present, though any *new* versions should use
            vYYYYMMDD.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">I have modified the text to indicate that
          software cannot rely on the version number reflecting a date.<br>
          <br>
          <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:blue">3.
            section 2.3 version:  I wonder if you need to say more
            (maybe not here, but if not where?) about what triggers a
            new version.  I think its </span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:blue"> 
            a. anything that changes the content of a file already
            published and</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:blue"> 
            b. the addition or deletion of files from any publication
            data set. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:blue">  Pure
            'data management' meta data changes (addition of checksums,
            move to new URL's) need not trigger a new version.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:blue"> 
            Do you also need to say there is no guarantee that old
            versions will be kept (unless they have a DOI).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">I've added some of this information now to
          the document.<br>
          <br>
          <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:blue">4.
            section 2.4 Temporal Subsets or means: I don't understand
            the 'avg' example, or if I do I don't know if its right (but
            the point is relatively minor).  I think the example you
            quote as one 6 month mean field in it.  This is based on 1
            day means.  I think its a little anomalous to keep the
            frequency as 'day' in this case.  That's not quite
            consistent with the definition (and I think all other uses)
            of frequency.  Strictly speaking frequency should be 6mon
            no?  (I may have misunderstood).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">I think you're right.  I'm not sure why I
          thought this was the right way to do it.  I've changed the
          example, <br>
          <br>
          <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:blue">5.
            section 3.5.  Does this need clarifying? I think the current
            wording is potentially confusing,  I think it should say
            something like:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:blue">'URLs
            referencing the data files will have a site dependent prefix
            (that may change due to site-specific data management tasks)
            followed by the directory structure.  This directory
            structure should (but may not) follow the recommendations of
            section 3.3'</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">I've modified the text as suggested.<br>
          <br>
          <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:blue">6.
            I've noticed that the thredds catalogs also expose a thing
            called the file_id, e.g</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:blue">&lt;property
            name="file_id"
value="cmip5.output1.CNRM-CERFACS.CNRM-CM5.rcp45.mon.ocean.Omon.r1i1p1.vo_Omon_CNRM-CM5_rcp45_r1i1p1_203601-204512.nc"/&gt;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:blue">I
            don't know if they need a mention as being anything
            important (we don't use them as they don't give any version
            info).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">We've already given 5 use cases, which I
          think is enough.  The DRS is used in a number of other ways.<br>
          <br>
          <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:blue">Hope
            this is useful,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Yes thanks very much!<br>
          Karl<br>
          <br>
          <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:blue">Jamie</span><o:p></o:p></p>
        <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid blue
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
          <div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center"
            align="center"><span lang="EN-US">
              <hr align="center" size="2" width="100%"></span></div>
          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"
                lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"
              lang="EN-US"> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:go-essp-tech-bounces@ucar.edu">go-essp-tech-bounces@ucar.edu</a>
              [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:go-essp-tech-bounces@ucar.edu">mailto:go-essp-tech-bounces@ucar.edu</a>]
              <b>On Behalf Of </b>Karl Taylor<br>
              <b>Sent:</b> 10 February 2012 01:32<br>
              <b>To:</b> V. Balaji; Steve Hankin; Martin Juckes; Bryan
              Lawrence; Stephen Pascoe; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:go-essp-tech@ucar.edu">go-essp-tech@ucar.edu</a><br>
              <b>Subject:</b> [Go-essp-tech] DRS corrections and
              extensions</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal">Dear all,<br>
            <br>
            Attached is my attempt to make the DRS consistent with CMIP5
            (in describing the precision of "time instants"), but
            primarily to extend it to a more complete treatment of
            spatio-temporal subsets or means.  I've also corrected a few
            typos.<br>
            <br>
            Comments most welcome.  In particular could someone recheck
            sections 3.3-3.5 (which haven't been changed by me) to see
            if they remain consistent with CMIP5?<br>
            <br>
            thanks and best regards,<br>
            Karl<o:p></o:p></p>
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