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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=027103614-21032012><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Hello Jennifer,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=027103614-21032012><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>did you check the branch_time of the piControl sections or the
historicalMisc (p1) and historical etc that Ken mentions - I think its the
historical runs that Ken mentions that should have the correct branch times,
with the parent_experiment_id pointing to piControl. The branch time is
described in one of Karl's documents... <A
href="http://cmip-pcmdi.llnl.gov/cmip5/docs/CMIP5_output_metadata_requirements.pdf">http://cmip-pcmdi.llnl.gov/cmip5/docs/CMIP5_output_metadata_requirements.pdf</A> -
though the most obvious route to this document I know is through the 'data
providers' item on the CMIP5 web page. Karl - is it worth makeing this
more obviously relevant to data users too?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=027103614-21032012><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>I don't know whether its worth trying to capture an expanded
version of Kens explanation somewhere for all data users to see. If it is
then where?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=027103614-21032012><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>For what its worth branch_time is one of those things that we
found fairly hard to get right when we were producing data.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2 face=Arial>Jamie</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> go-essp-tech-bounces@ucar.edu
[mailto:go-essp-tech-bounces@ucar.edu] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Jennifer
Adams<BR><B>Sent:</B> 21 March 2012 14:04<BR><B>To:</B>
go-essp-tech@ucar.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Go-essp-tech] Data file
gaps<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Ken Lo's explanation makes me want to laugh and cry at the same
time. I see a global attribute called "branch_time", but for the handful of
random files from I checked from both periods it is set to "0."
--Jennifer
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<DIV>On Mar 20, 2012, at 7:13 PM, Jeffrey F. Painter wrote:</DIV><BR
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<DIV text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">I can shed some light on one of the
gaps: the GISS-E2-R piControl files actually contain TWO control runs!
One side of the gap is one control run, and the other side of the gap is the
other control run. I cut-and-pasted a message from Ken Lo about this,
at the bottom of this message.<BR><BR>- Jeff<BR><BR>On 3/20/12 11:55 AM,
Karl Taylor wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=mid:4F68D2BF.9050004@llnl.gov type="cite">database
problem??<BR><BR>-------- Original Message --------
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<TH vAlign=baseline noWrap align=right>Subject: </TH>
<TD>[Go-essp-tech] Data file gaps</TD></TR>
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<TH vAlign=baseline noWrap align=right>Date: </TH>
<TD>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 11:50:07 -0700</TD></TR>
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<TH vAlign=baseline noWrap align=right>From: </TH>
<TD>Jennifer Adams <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E
href="mailto:jma@cola.iges.org"
moz-do-not-send="true"><jma@cola.iges.org></A></TD></TR>
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<TH vAlign=baseline noWrap align=right>To: </TH>
<TD><A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:go-essp-tech@ucar.edu"
moz-do-not-send="true">go-essp-tech@ucar.edu</A> <A
class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:go-essp-tech@ucar.edu"
moz-do-not-send="true"><go-essp-tech@ucar.edu></A></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14px" class=Apple-style-span>Dear
All,</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14px" class=Apple-style-span>I have a GrADS
script that creates descriptor files for CMIP5 data, and it has uncovered
some gaps in the date strings of files that belong to an atomic data set.
I have checked the ESGF gateways for all the datasets listed below and I
can confirm that these files are missing for some variables. I haven't
given the variable names, because I have only checked the subset of
variables that are of interest to me and that may not be a complete list.
If the specific var names that I checked would be useful, I can provide
them. While checking on these gaps, I noticed that not all variables in an
atomic dataset span the same time range … an inconsistency that doesn't
quite make sense to me. I also noticed that in some cases, d</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14px" class=Apple-style-span>ata files that I had
grabbed are no longer listed on the gateway, even though the version
number is the same. An example is </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14px"
class=Apple-style-span><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Courier; FONT-SIZE: 14px"
class=Apple-style-span>cmip5.output1.NCC.NorESM1-M.piControl.day.land.day.r1i1p1.v20110901,
mrsos, date range 11000101-12001231. </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14px" class=Apple-style-span>What does that
mean?</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14px"
class=Apple-style-span> </SPAN></DIV>
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class=Apple-style-span><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14px" class=Apple-style-span>The gaps put
these data into the "not quite usable" category. I wasn't sure whether to
send this to the helpdesk or the forum or both; in the end I am just
posting here.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 14px"
class=Apple-style-span>--Jennifer</SPAN></DIV>
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class=Apple-style-span><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Courier><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14px" class=Apple-style-span> 11880 times missing
in cmip5.output1.NASA-GISS.GISS-E2-H.piControl.mon.atmos.Amon.r1i1p1
between 141912 and 241001</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Courier><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14px" class=Apple-style-span> 11880 times missing
in cmip5.output1.NASA-GISS.GISS-E2-H.piControl.mon.land.Lmon.r1i1p1
between 141912 and 241001</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Courier><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14px" class=Apple-style-span> 4200 times missing
in cmip5.output1.NASA-GISS.GISS-E2-R.piControl.mon.land.Lmon.r1i1p1
between 363012 and 398101 </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Courier><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14px" class=Apple-style-span> 11880 times missing
in cmip5.output1.NASA-GISS.GISS-E2-H.piControl.mon.ocean.Omon.r1i1p1
between 141912 and 241001</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Courier; FONT-SIZE: 14px"
class=Apple-style-span> 4200 times missing in
cmip5.output1.NASA-GISS.GISS-E2-R.piControl.mon.ocean.Omon.r1i1p1 between
363012 and 398101 </SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Courier; FONT-SIZE: 14px"
class=Apple-style-span> 1 times missing in
cmip5.output1.MOHC.HadGEM2-CC.historical.mon.ocean.Omon.r3i1p1
between 200110 and 200112</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Courier; FONT-SIZE: 14px"
class=Apple-style-span> 60 times missing in
cmip5.output1.NOAA-GFDL.GFDL-ESM2M.piControl.mon.land.Lmon.r1i1p1 between
017012 and 017601</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Courier><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14px" class=Apple-style-span> 60 times
missing in
cmip5.output1.NOAA-GFDL.GFDL-ESM2M.piControl.mon.land.Lmon.r1i1p1 between
003012 and 003601</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Courier; FONT-SIZE: 14px"
class=Apple-style-span> 3650 times missing in
cmip5.output1.NOAA-GFDL.GFDL-CM3.piControl.day.atmos.day.r1i1p1
between 00101231 and 00210101</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Courier><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14px" class=Apple-style-span> 1825 times missing
in cmip5.output1.NOAA-GFDL.GFDL-CM3.piControl.day.atmos.day.r1i1p1
between 00401231 and 00460101</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Courier><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14px" class=Apple-style-span> 7300 times missing
in cmip5.output1.NOAA-GFDL.GFDL-CM3.piControl.day.atmos.day.r1i1p1
between 00751231 and 00960101</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Courier><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14px" class=Apple-style-span>142350 times missing in
cmip5.output1.NOAA-GFDL.GFDL-CM3.piControl.day.atmos.day.r1i1p1
between 01001231 and 04910101</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Courier><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14px" class=Apple-style-span>
<DIV> 73000 times missing in
cmip5.output1.NCC.NorESM1-M.piControl.day.land.day.r1i1p1
between 08991231 and 11000101</DIV>
<DIV> 29220 times missing in
cmip5.output1.MPI-M.MPI-ESM-LR.rcp85.day.atmos.day.r1i1p1
between 22001231 and
22810101 </DIV></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12px">--</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12px">Jennifer M. Adams</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12px">IGES/COLA</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12px">4041 Powder Mill Road, Suite 302</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12px">Calverton, MD 20705</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12px"><A href="mailto:jma@cola.iges.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">jma@cola.iges.org</A></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>On 11/4/11 6:07 AM, Ken Lo wrote: <BR>Dear Jeff
Painter, <BR><BR>Years 3331 to 3630 of the control run are meant to be
compared with <BR>historicalMisc (p1), while years 3981 to 4530 are meant to
be compared <BR>with historical, historicalMisc (p109), historicalGHG,
historicalNat <BR>and rcp runs (all p1 except indicated otherwise).
The appropriate years <BR>for comparison are written in the branch time of
the metadata of each <BR>file. </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR>
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<DIV>Jennifer M. Adams</DIV>
<DIV>IGES/COLA</DIV>
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