<div>Hi Estani,</div>
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<div>I am on military duty this week and have only been able to follow your concerns from afar. </div>
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<div>In your latest email, I am having trouble determining whether your issues are for searching for DATA or METADATA. </div>
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<div>Here are some key points:</div>
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<div>* How the information about data and metadata gets into the system is different for each type. Metadata as you know comes from the questionnaire. Data metadata comes from the harvesting of the TDS system. </div>
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<div>* The path for data and metadata is different such that there may be metadata before data or vice versa. We actually have very limited cases right now with both existing at the same time.</div>
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<div>* ESG 1.3.x requires that data and metadata be co-located on the same system for the output tab to show any information. ESG 2.0 is federated and this requirement goes away. Note that the GFDL example you point to below is a sample metadata instance that I created a long time ago for demonstration purposes. There is no data associated with it. This instance and all references to it have been removed in 2.0. The data connection is working at BADC for those hadgem-2 instances they have local data for. </div>
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<div>I am happy to create some tickets in the system for you, but I need to better understand what searches you are trying to conduct. It would also be useful to determine if the issues you are seeing in 1.3.x have been fixed in 2.0. </div>
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<div>Cheers,</div>
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<div>Sylvia</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 3:18 AM, Estanislao Gonzalez <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gonzalez@dkrz.de">gonzalez@dkrz.de</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex" class="gmail_quote">Hi,<br><br>I think this is a good opportunity to describe the problem with more detail.<br><br>The GFDL results are different for DKRZ and BADC. Neither Gateway has local GFDL data and both are exactly the same version.<br>
So the only difference between them is the harvesting time.<br><br>I already mentioned a problem while harvesting the OAI from other gateways (a concurrency problem), not sure this got solved. If the trackback is ussing, yet again, the same xml parser in the same thread-unsafe way, then it might be potentially breaking in the middle of the transaction leaving the DB/3Store (whatever it's writing to) in an incomplete state.<br>
In any case if the harvesting were deterministic, this shouldn't really matter and both DKRZ and BADC should present the same results (whatever that might be).<br><br>Searching for GFDL at DKRZ breaks the system, this is something that needs urgent attention in my opinion. How could a query of a specific term result in an internal error?<br>
Apparently if the user searches for anything that would result in a broken document (perhaps some GFDL ones?) then it breaks with an "internal error".<br>We can't tell them to search for good ones only.<br><br>
Furthermore the output tab says: "Output data for this simulation is not yet available in the archive."<br>(see <a href="http://ipcc-ar5.dkrz.de/trackback/query.htm?id=esg%3amodel_gfdl_lm2_control_1860_r1i1&session=true&fromSearch=true" target="_blank">http://ipcc-ar5.dkrz.de/<u></u>trackback/query.htm?id=esg%<u></u>3amodel_gfdl_lm2_control_1860_<u></u>r1i1&session=true&fromSearch=<u></u>true</a><br>
<a href="http://ipcc-ar5.dkrz.de/trackback/query.htm?id=esg%3amodel_mpiom_decadal1960-lrbasesimulation&session=true&fromSearch=true" target="_blank">http://ipcc-ar5.dkrz.de/<u></u>trackback/query.htm?id=esg%<u></u>3amodel_mpiom_decadal1960-<u></u>lrbasesimulation&session=true&<u></u>fromSearch=true</a>)<br>
Which isn't correct and is misleading users to think institutions haven't provide any data. I think that if we can't get it right, we should better right that "we don't know" than assuring the user there's no data at all...<br>
<br>My 2c,<br>Estani<br><br>Am 18.01.2012 22:44, schrieb Cecelia DeLuca:
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<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex" class="gmail_quote">Hi Serguei and all,<br><br>Thanks, I see the error now too.<br><br> From BADC I tried a Datasets text search for GFDL and it reliably hangs<br>
for me in "Loading, please<br>wait." If I click the x of that "Loading ..." box to cancel it and try<br>to go to the second (or third ...) page<br>of those results I get an internal server error. Seeing that, I'm not<br>
sure that the problem lies with the<br>metadata or the metadata integration with search but maybe with the<br>keyword search itself. Our team<br>doesn't have expertise in that part of the system so maybe someone else<br>
can comment if this is<br>a known bug.<br><br>It would be nice to have an organized list of known bugs that may affect<br>users for the CMIP5<br>production system that users could see ...<br><br>Best,<br>Cecelia<br><br><br>
On 1/18/2012 11:30 AM, Serguei Nikonov wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex" class="gmail_quote">Hi Cecelia,<br><br>thanks for your help. I made a search on "CMIP5 simulation metadata"<br>page you pointed out and didn't find any GFDL simulations there. As<br>
you told it means that we should not expect to get any simulations in<br>gateway search.<br><br>Regarding the stability of search error on BADC gateway, I tested it<br>today again several times and it's persistent. I chose "Simulations"<br>
type of search and put "GFDL" into search field. It returned 23<br>results split into 3 pages. When I tried to go to 2nd page "An<br>internal server error..." happened.<br><br>Thanks,<br>Sergey<br><br>
<br>On 01/17/2012 07:42 PM, Cecelia DeLuca wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex" class="gmail_quote">Hi Serguei,<br><br>Sylvia is out this week but I just spoke to her about your questions<br>and relay the<br>responses below. Please look here:<br>
<a href="http://q.cmip5.ceda.ac.uk/feeds/cmip5/simulation/" target="_blank">http://q.cmip5.ceda.ac.uk/<u></u>feeds/cmip5/simulation/</a><br><br>You can see the simulations entered through the CMIP5 questionnaire and<br>available for<br>
ingestion into the metadata trackback. If you don't see the ones you<br>expect<br>from GFDL,<br>it means that the process of submitting these simulations through the<br>questionnaire isn't completed.<br><br>The only one I see in the trackback is an early synthetic example<br>
from GFDL that we<br>used for testing (Control-1860).<br><br>Our team doesn't handle the questionnaire input, the METAFOR group<br>does. Ron and<br>Charlotte Pascoe from METAFOR have a dialogue going about how to<br>
complete the GFDL<br>submissions. When that works more simulations should show up at the<br>URL above, and<br>will then be ingested and shown in the metadata trackback.<br><br>It would be good to test in a current (1.3.4) version of the<br>
gateway. PCMDI is<br>still at an earlier<br>version (1.3.2) and may not show the same results as others. I was<br>testing<br>earlier today<br>and saw erratic errors there, either hanging while loading or getting<br>the internal<br>
server error, in all kinds of search situations. I didn't see these<br>issues<br>testing at BADC<br>and could not reproduce the internal server error you got when going<br>to the second<br>page of your search results. Does that reliably fail for you?<br>
<br>There are a number of other issues with metadata being tracked as<br>known bugs.<br>Sylvia<br>recently sent out a summary. Her mail is included below my<br>response. I added some<br>updates.<br><br>In summary, to begin to understand and fix the issues you see:<br>
- ensure GFDL simulations are submitted, and only expect to see<br>simulations that are<br>available at the URL above<br>- test on gateways that have 1.3.4 installed<br>- remaining errors should be analyzed and checked against known bugs<br>
below<br><br>Please write if you have further questions.<br><br>Best,<br>Cecelia<br><br><br>-------- Original Message --------<br>Subject: [Curator] Status report on metadata display issues<br>Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 09:10:06 -0700<br>
From: Sylvia Murphy<<a href="mailto:sylvia.murphy@noaa.gov" target="_blank">sylvia.murphy@noaa.gov</a>><br>To: <a href="mailto:go-essp-tech@ucar.edu" target="_blank">go-essp-tech@ucar.edu</a><br>CC: Metafor List<<a href="mailto:metafor@lists.enes.org" target="_blank">metafor@lists.enes.org</a>>, <a href="mailto:curator@list.woc.noaa.gov" target="_blank">curator@list.woc.noaa.gov</a><br>
<br><br><br>Hi Everyone,<br><br>Since we have not had a go-essp-tech call in quite a while, I thought<br>I would<br>send out an email summarizing the metadata-display operational issues<br>going<br>across the federation:<br>
<br><br>STATUS OF BUGS IN THE SOFTWARE: These issues affect every<br>installation and all<br>users...<br><br>1) CIM instances (that contain unicode characters) are not displaying<br>properly.<br>This includes instances that contain % signs, "(", or umlauts. This<br>
has been<br>permanently fixed in 2.0 RC1, but will still be an issue for users<br>until 2.0 is<br>finalized and installed across the federation. [CD - I don't know<br>about across<br>the federation, but if anybody does end up installing 2.0, it should<br>
be fixed<br>there. Goes for the next item too.]<br><br>2) Users are presented with a blurb on the simulation search page<br>indicating<br>that "Much of the 5th Coupled Model Intercomparison Project (CMIP5)<br>metadata<br>
that will be accessible from this gateway is not yet available". This<br>has been<br>fixed in 2.0 RC1, but will still be an issue for users until 2.0 is<br>finalized<br>and installed across the federation.<br><br>CENTER SPECIFIC ISSUES:<br>
<br>There are some gateways with technical issues that also affect users:<br><br>1) PCMDI: Users get an internal server error when they click on the<br>results of<br>any metadata search, and see no model metadata at all. This fix<br>
requires that<br>PCMDI update their postgres database. [CD: Looks like the postgres<br>database was<br>updated by PCMDI in the last week, so metadata is working in the<br>PCMDI gateway,<br>the first time since September. Yay!! However, PCMDI is still at<br>
gateway<br>version 1.3.2, and behavior may not be the same as behavior of<br>gateways with the<br>latest production version installed.]<br><br>2) NCI: Users see most (37/61) but not all metadata records because<br>NCI needs<br>
to reharvest their triple store as part of their upgrade to 1.3.4.<br>We are in<br>contact with NCI and walking them through this. Note that triple store<br>reharvests will be significantly less painful with ESG 2.0.<br>
<br>3) DKRZ: Users will not see data links in the trackback for local<br>DKRZ data.<br>This problem has been identified as a mismatch between the names in<br>the data and<br>what is coming out of the CIM. Such mismatches were anticipated and<br>
a mapping<br>file created to translate between the two. This file just needs to<br>be updated<br>at DKRZ. This is being worked.<br><br>As always, you may check the status of metadata across the federation<br>at:<br><a href="http://esgf.org/wiki/Cmip5Status" target="_blank">http://esgf.org/wiki/<u></u>Cmip5Status</a><br>
I last checked all the sites on 6 January and recheck every Friday.<br><br><br><br><br>On 1/17/2012 12:51 PM, Serguei Nikonov wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex" class="gmail_quote">Hi Sylvia,<br><br>Ron Stouffer found the serious issue with GFDL simulations - they<br>are not seen<br>all through gateway search interface. I tried it on different<br>
gateways (PCMDI,<br>BADC, DKRZ), the results are not good:<br><br>1. "Simulations" search by keywords does not work normally. On PCMDI<br>and DKRZ<br>gateways "GFDL" keyword in search generates message "An internal<br>
server error<br>has occurred. The problem has been logged and the administrator<br>notified". BADC<br>is little bit better but the search returns 23 results (on 3 pages)<br>which are<br>only 6 is GFDL; further, going to the 2nd page of returned results<br>
gives the<br>same internal server error.<br><br>2. Searching without keywords returns only 6 GFDL results (PCMDI,<br>BADC, DKRZ).<br><br>Other issue is that the tab "Outputs" in chosen simulation does not<br>contain any<br>
datasets. I am not sure whether it's working functionality currently<br>cause I<br>could find only one good working example on BADC gateway for<br>HadGEM2-ES model.<br><br>Estani recommended me to ask you about help. Can you advise where to<br>
start with<br>to fix it? Is it GFDL problem or it's general issue.<br><br>Thanks,<br>Sergey Nikonov<br>GFDL Data Portal<br><br>On 01/16/2012 12:05 PM, Estanislao Gonzalez wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex" class="gmail_quote">Hi Sergei,<br><br>that's a whole different issue... I think it's best to start a new<br>thread for<br>that and ask Sylvia Murphy<<a href="mailto:Sylvia.Murphy@noaa.gov" target="_blank">Sylvia.Murphy@noaa.gov</a>> directly.<br>
There are many issues regarding Simulations right now... I don't<br>think this will<br>affect that at all, since simulations has no dataset version concept.<br><br>If simulations are not appearing as they should, or the link in<br>
trackback to the<br>datasets is not being displayed, this normally has to do with a<br>problem in the<br>DB of the Gateway and has no relation to the data nodes whatsoever.<br>So If you<br>find any problems related to Simulations, you should contact Bob<br>
and Sylvia<br>directly.<br>As of this time there are still some unresolved issues though.<br><br>thanks,<br>Estani<br>Am 16.01.2012 17:39, schrieb Serguei Nikonov:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex" class="gmail_quote">Hi Estani,<br><br>thanks for you help. I realize that I need to republish all<br>datasets. My main<br>point right now is what should be done else to make simulations<br>
visible<br>(datasets are OK) in "Simulation" search. This is the main issue<br>currently. Or<br>"harmonizing" versions in datasets on gateway with physical<br>version in DRS<br>will be enough and simulations will appear in "Simulations" search<br>
after that<br>at once?<br><br>Thanks,<br>Sergey<br><br>On 01/16/2012 11:28 AM, Estanislao Gonzalez wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex" class="gmail_quote">Hi Sergey,<br><br>sorry if this got confusing but there's a small problem with what<br>Hans said.<br>Setting "version_by_date=true" won't help you here, since AFAIK<br>
it will generate<br>a version from the current date, which wont match what you<br>already have in you<br>directory path.<br><br>To publish a version that's not the current date, you should pass<br>it to the<br>esgpublisher "somehow". One option is to use the --new-version<br>
flag as I said,<br>another would be to provide a list of datasets and versions via the<br>--version-list flag (check the --help)<br><br>I' CCing Bob, maybe he has a better approach. But I'd say, you<br>have to<br>
re-publish everything with the proper version.<br><br>If you use mapfiles, the simplest way to do it I can think of is<br>to extract the<br>version and dataset from the map file using an sed command:<br>sed 's#^\([^|].*\)|.*/v\(20[0-9]*\<u></u>)/.*#\1|\2#'<_your_map_file><br>
|sort -u<br><br>If you use bash you could do (after unpublishing):<br>map=<path_to_map_file><br>esgpublish --map $map --version-list<(sed<br>'s#^\([^|].*\)|.*/v\(20[0-9]*\<u></u>)/.*#\1|\2#' $map |sort -u)<br>
....[and the rest as<br>usual]<br><br>This ways you could publish mapfiles which contains datasets from<br>different<br>versions. If all files in the mapfile are from the same version<br>(might be from<br>different datasets, no problem) then it's easier to use<br>
--new-version 2011xxxx<br>It depends on what your environment looks like.<br><br>Hope this helps,<br>Estani<br><br><br>Am 16.01.2012 16:58, schrieb Hans Ramthun:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex" class="gmail_quote">Hallo Sergey,<br><br>What I wanted is described here were Estani pointed to in one of<br>his mails:<br><a href="http://esg-pcmdi.llnl.gov/internal/esg-data-node-documentation/cmip5-best-practices" target="_blank">http://esg-pcmdi.llnl.gov/<u></u>internal/esg-data-node-<u></u>documentation/cmip5-best-<u></u>practices</a><br>
<br><br><br>If you publish the datasets with the option 'version_by_date =<br>true' in the<br>project section of the esg.ini file then the discrepancy should<br>be reversed<br>and the view in the tds should be correct.<br>
<br>The gateway search will always show the most recent version of<br>the data and in<br>the history tab other versions of the found data.<br><br>So the only thing you have to do is to insert the above option<br>in the esg.ini<br>
file of your data node before publishing the data.<br><br>Hope that clarified this.<br><br>Regards<br>Hans<br><br><br><br>Am 16.01.2012 16:36, schrieb Serguei Nikonov:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex" class="gmail_quote">Hi Hans,<br><br>so, if I change version of dataset on gateway to have it the<br>same as what we<br>have in physical path of files then "Simulations" search in<br>
gateway (e.g.<br><a href="http://cmip-gw.badc.rl.ac.uk/query/advanced.htm?product=ConfiguredModelwill" target="_blank">http://cmip-gw.badc.rl.ac.uk/<u></u>query/advanced.htm?product=<u></u>ConfiguredModelwill</a>)<br><br>
gives all published experiments visible in "Datasets" search?<br>And also<br>"Output" tab of simulation will contain links to datasets? Do I<br>understand<br>correctly what the final result should be achieved?<br>
<br>Thanks,<br>Sergey<br><br>On 01/16/2012 02:56 AM, Hans Ramthun wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex" class="gmail_quote">Hallo Estani,<br><br>Correct that discrepancy is what I meant.<br><br>Thanks for investigating and clarifying this<br>
Hans<br><br>Am 14.01.2012 20:28, schrieb Estanislao Gonzalez:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex" class="gmail_quote">Hi,<br><br>I've CCed Has, for some reason it wasn't in the list.<br><br>Anyway, the problem was the version number of the datasets,<br>
e.g.:<br>This is the url of the metadata to file:<br><a href="http://esgdata.gfdl.noaa.gov/thredds/esgcet/1/cmip5.output1.NOAA-GFDL.GFDL-CM3.historical.mon.atmos.Amon.r1i1p1.v1.html?dataset=cmip5.output1.NOAA-GFDL.GFDL-CM3.historical.mon.atmos.Amon.r1i1p1.v1.ps_Amon_GFDL-CM3_historical_r1i1p1_186001-186412.nc" target="_blank">http://esgdata.gfdl.noaa.gov/<u></u>thredds/esgcet/1/cmip5.<u></u>output1.NOAA-GFDL.GFDL-CM3.<u></u>historical.mon.atmos.Amon.<u></u>r1i1p1.v1.html?dataset=cmip5.<u></u>output1.NOAA-GFDL.GFDL-CM3.<u></u>historical.mon.atmos.Amon.<u></u>r1i1p1.v1.ps_Amon_GFDL-CM3_<u></u>historical_r1i1p1_186001-<u></u>186412.nc</a><br>
<br><br><br><br><br>says the dataset it's v1 as you note from the url. Now the<br>download path is:<br><a href="http://esgdata.gfdl.noaa.gov/thredds/fileServer/gfdl_dataroot/NOAA-GFDL/GFDL-CM3/historical/mon/atmos/Amon/r1i1p1/v20110601/ps/ps_Amon_GFDL-CM3_historical_r1i1p1_186001-186412.nc" target="_blank">http://esgdata.gfdl.noaa.gov/<u></u>thredds/fileServer/gfdl_<u></u>dataroot/NOAA-GFDL/GFDL-CM3/<u></u>historical/mon/atmos/Amon/<u></u>r1i1p1/v20110601/ps/ps_Amon_<u></u>GFDL-CM3_historical_r1i1p1_<u></u>186001-186412.nc</a><br>
<br><br><br><br><br>where you see that the version in the DRS path says the<br>version is 20110601.<br><br>The problem is the discrepancy between the two versions. The<br>required<br>step was<br>to publish the dataset using --new-version 20110601 or any of<br>
the others<br>possibilities the publisher offers.<br><br>Hans, that's what you've meant right?<br><br>Cheers,<br>Estani<br><br>Am 13.01.2012 21:18, schrieb Serguei Nikonov:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex" class="gmail_quote">Hi Hans,<br><br>Ron asked me to follow up this issue. As I understand<br>primary problem is<br>with<br>visibility of GFDL metafor metadata from different gateways,<br>
isn't it?<br><br>As I checked GFDL data, it's accessible from European<br>gateways. I am<br>wondering how type of versioning (numbers or date) in<br>datasets can<br>affect on<br>this primary problem? May be I am not clear understand where<br>
is the<br>problem,<br>can you explain me, please.<br><br>Thanks,<br>Sergey Nikonov,<br>GFDL Data Portal<br><br><br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex" class="gmail_quote">Am 13.01.2012 09:05, schrieb Hans Ramthun:<br>Hallo Estani,<br><br>How can Ron fix this problem with the version numbers like<br>
v1,v2,...on<br></blockquote>the<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex" class="gmail_quote">GFDL thredds server<br>(<a href="http://esgdata.gfdl.noaa.gov/thredds/esgcet/catalog.html" target="_blank">http://esgdata.gfdl.noaa.gov/<u></u>thredds/esgcet/catalog.html</a>)?<br>
<br>Could you please guide him to get the correct ones like<br>v20120113,...?<br><br>Thanks<br>Hans<br><br><br>-------- Original-Nachricht --------<br>Betreff: Re: [metafor] metafor questionnaire<br>Datum: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 12:56:39 -0500<br>
Von: Ron Stouffer<<a href="mailto:ronald.stouffer@noaa.gov" target="_blank">ronald.stouffer@noaa.<u></u>gov</a>><br><mailto:<a href="mailto:ronald.stouffer@noaa.gov" target="_blank">ronald.stouffer@noaa.<u></u>gov</a>><br>
Organisation: Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory<br>An: Hans Ramthun<<a href="mailto:ramthun@dkrz.de" target="_blank">ramthun@dkrz.de</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ramthun@dkrz.de" target="_blank">ramthun@dkrz.de</a>><br>
<br><br><br>Hi Hans,<br><br>I am not sure if the problem you point out is my problem<br>(something that<br>GFDLers need to fix) or something that somebody involved in<br>the CMIP<br>data serving software needs to fix.<br>
<br>If it is our (GFDL) problem. How do we go about fixing it???<br><br>Thanks for the comment.<br>-Ron<br><br>On 1/12/2012 9:04 AM, Hans Ramthun wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex" class="gmail_quote">Hallo Ron,<br><br>When I go to the GFDL thredds server<br>(<a href="http://esgdata.gfdl.noaa.gov/thredds/esgcet/catalog.html" target="_blank">http://esgdata.gfdl.noaa.gov/<u></u>thredds/esgcet/catalog.html</a>)<br>
I find only<br>datasets with version numbers like v1,v2,...<br>Normally I would expect here something like a data:<br>v20120112 or so.<br><br>Cheers<br>Hans<br><br><br>Am 12.01.2012 14:08,<a href="mailto:schriebcharlotte.pascoe@stfc.ac.uk" target="_blank">schriebcharlotte.pascoe@<u></u>stfc.ac.uk</a>:<br>
</blockquote></blockquote><mailto:<a href="mailto:charlotte.pascoe@stfc.ac.uk" target="_blank">charlotte.pascoe@stfc.<u></u>ac.uk</a>:><br>
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<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex" class="gmail_quote">Hi all,<br><br>There are no GFDL simulations on the list of published<br>CIM documents<br>on the questionnaire atom feed.<br>
However, there are 26 simulations documented in the GFDL<br>pages of the<br>questionnaire.<br>Ron, you'll have just received an email from the help<br>desk asking you<br>to hit the publish button on you simulation documents and<br>
offering an<br>online demo session to help iron out any niggles.<br><br>best,<br>Charlotte<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br><a href="mailto:From%3Ametafor-bounces@lists.enes.org" target="_blank">From:metafor-bounces@lists.<u></u>enes.org</a><br>
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Bryan Lawrence<br>Sent: 11 January 2012 13:33<br>To: Ron Stouffer<br>Cc: Metafor List; sylvia murphy<br>Subject: Re: [metafor] metafor questionnaire<br><br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex" class="gmail_quote">Bryan,<br><br>Is the ESM2M (GFDL) metafor questionnaire done and public?<br><br>-Ron<br></blockquote>Hi Ron<br>
<br>The short answer is yes.<br><br>The slightly longer answer is, that for reasons I don't<br>understand<br>one sees a different amount of simulation metadata for<br>GFDL in the<br>various gateways ... There are 23 simulations<br>
descriptions for GFDL<br>(including ESM2M ones) at BADC, 21 at PCMDI and 10 at<br>NCAR in their<br>gateway 2 ...<br><br>(You can see these records by choosing simulation<br>or'simulation<br>metadata' as the target in your search on the portals,<br>
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<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex" class="gmail_quote">I don't know that any of these numbers correspond to the<br>number in<br>the questionnaire feed. It's an interesting quality<br>
control issue,<br>and I think we'll knock something up to compare what's<br>public from<br>the questionnaire, and what appears in the portals.<br><br>Cheers<br>Bryan<br><br>-- <br>Bryan Lawrence<br>University of Reading: Professor of Weather and Climate<br>
Computing.<br>National Centre for Atmospheric Science: Director of<br>Models and Data.<br>STFC: Director of the Centre for Environmental Data<br>Archival.<br>Ph:<a href="tel:%2B44%20118%203786507" target="_blank" value="+441183786507">+44 118 3786507</a><tel:%2B44%20118%203786507> or 1235<br>
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