<div>Hi Eric,</div>
<div>I'm awaiting further instructions to view the demo. </div>
<div>Did you send out the additional info you said you would?</div>
<div>Thx, Glenn<br><br></div>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Eric Nienhouse <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ejn@ucar.edu">ejn@ucar.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PADDING-LEFT:1ex" class="gmail_quote">Hi All,<br><br>We plan to hold a GO-ESSP tech call tomorrow (Jan 10, 2012.) Agenda<br>follows:<br><br>* Overview and demo of Gateway 2.0.<br>
* Near and mid term technology roadmap for CMIP5 operations (open<br>discussion.)<br><br>We'll be using ReadyTalk web sharing for the Gateway 2.0 demo. There is<br>a brief registration page to join in. The link follows:<br>
<br> <a href="https://cc.readytalk.com/r/6icl9p8fqbey" target="_blank">https://cc.readytalk.com/r/6icl9p8fqbey</a><br><br>Please access the telco number for the audio portion:<br><br>+01 <a href="tel:%28925%29%20424-8105" value="+19254248105">(925) 424-8105</a> access code 305757#<br>
<br>*Telco details:<br>*16:00 BST, 17:00 CEST, 8:00 PDT, 9:00 MDT, 11:00 EDT.<br><br>Apologies - the previous email subject noted the telco is in "2011". It<br>is, of course, scheduled for Jan 10, 2012. Happy New Year :-)<br>
<br>Best regards,<br><br>-Eric<br><br><br>Eric Nienhouse wrote:<br>> Hi All,<br>><br>> We plan to hold a GO-ESSP tech call tomorrow. Following is our<br>> tentative agenda:<br>><br>> * Overview and demo of Gateway 2.0.<br>
> * Near and mid term technology roadmap for CMIP5 operations (open<br>> discussion.)<br>><br>> We'll be using ReadyTalk web sharing for the Gateway 2.0 demo. I'll<br>> send a follow-up email with connection details.<br>
><br>> Best regards,<br>><br>> -Eric<br>><br>> Eric Nienhouse wrote:<br>><br>>> Hi Micheal,<br>>><br>>> Thank you. I agree discussing the future path of the running CMIP5<br>>> archive and the ESGF efforts openly is extremely important as we all<br>
>> plan and work to meet the needs of our user community. We should<br>>> devote the time necessary to discuss this topic (or at least begin to)<br>>> in our upcoming call on Jan 10th as you suggest.<br>
>><br>>> Best regards,<br>>><br>>> -Eric<br>>><br>>> Michael Lautenschlager wrote:<br>>><br>>>> Dear Eric,<br>>>><br>>>> I support your suggestion to postpone the gateway discussion to<br>
>>> January 10th. Then most of us should be back from vacation between<br>>>> the years. But I suggest that we should plan for more than 30 minutes<br>>>> discussion on this topic because I think we should discuss the short<br>
>>> term development for the running CMIP5 archive and should also start<br>>>> discussion on the mid term development within ESGF. Both aspects are<br>>>> important for us at DKRZ because we would like to contribute to ESGF,<br>
>>> share work between ESGF partners and avoid double work.<br>>>><br>>>> Best wishes, Michael<br>>>><br>>>> ---------------<br>>>> Dr. Michael Lautenschlager<br>>>> Head of DKRZ Department Data Management<br>
>>> Director World Data Center Climate<br>>>><br>>>> German Climate Computing Centre (DKRZ)<br>>>> ADDRESS: Bundesstrasse 45a, D-20146 Hamburg, Germany<br>>>> PHONE: <a href="tel:%2B4940-460094-118" value="+4940460094118">+4940-460094-118</a><br>
>>> E-Mail: <a href="mailto:lautenschlager@dkrz.de">lautenschlager@dkrz.de</a><br>>>><br>>>> URL: <a href="http://www.dkrz.de/" target="_blank">http://www.dkrz.de/</a><br>>>> <a href="http://www.wdc-climate.de/" target="_blank">http://www.wdc-climate.de/</a><br>
>>><br>>>><br>>>> Geschäftsführer: Prof. Dr. Thomas Ludwig<br>>>> Sitz der Gesellschaft: Hamburg<br>>>> Amtsgericht Hamburg HRB 39784<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> Am <a href="tel:20.12.2011%2016" value="+12012201116">20.12.2011 16</a>:44, schrieb Eric Nienhouse:<br>
>>><br>>>>> Hi Dean, All,<br>>>>><br>>>>> We'd like to offer a walk-through of the Gateway 2.0 once our GO-ESSP<br>>>>> call schedule resumes after the new year.<br>
>>>><br>>>>> I propose Tuesday Jan 10th for this topic.<br>>>>><br>>>>> We could likely fit this into 30 minutes and have time to address other<br>>>>> topics if needed.<br>
>>>><br>>>>> How does that sound?<br>>>>><br>>>>> Best regards,<br>>>>><br>>>>> -Eric<br>>>>><br>>>>> Williams, Dean N. wrote:<br>
>>>><br>>>>>> Hi Don,<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> We have something already in the works for this coming week. With the<br>>>>>> holiday's coming in the EU and the US, perhaps it might not be best to<br>
>>>>> have this the first week in January. Looking forward to seeing it.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> Best regards,<br>>>>>> Dean<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> From: Don Middleton<<a href="mailto:don@ucar.edu">don@ucar.edu</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:don@ucar.edu">don@ucar.edu</a>>><br>
>>>>> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 07:54:57 -0800<br>>>>>> To: "Taylor, Karl Taylor"<<a href="mailto:taylor13@llnl.gov">taylor13@llnl.gov</a><br>>>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:taylor13@llnl.gov">taylor13@llnl.gov</a>>>, Adams Jennifer<<a href="mailto:jma@cola.iges.org">jma@cola.iges.org</a><br>
>>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jma@cola.iges.org">jma@cola.iges.org</a>>><br>>>>>> Cc: "<a href="mailto:go-essp-tech@ucar.edu">go-essp-tech@ucar.edu</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:go-essp-tech@ucar.edu">go-essp-tech@ucar.edu</a>>"<br>
>>>>> <<a href="mailto:go-essp-tech@ucar.edu">go-essp-tech@ucar.edu</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:go-essp-tech@ucar.edu">go-essp-tech@ucar.edu</a>>><br>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Go-essp-tech] Status of Gateway 2.0<br>
>>>>><br>>>>>> Karl, thanks for following up on this. Jennifer, Eric spoke correctly<br>>>>>> last week: at NCAR we are in the process of moving 2.0 into local<br>>>>>> production as a priority next step. I think this will be a big<br>
>>>>> improvement for the scientific community, and I hope we can deploy it<br>>>>>> more broadly for the same reason.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> There was discussion at the end of last week on having a PI level<br>
>>>>> meeting but I haven't heard any more on that so far. It would helpful<br>>>>>> to have some more open, community discussion of how we move forward;<br>>>>>> across the federation there are a lot of investments, stakeholders,<br>
>>>>> and resource issues to consider. We would also like to offer a<br>>>>>> walk-through of 2.0. There's not a lot of time left before the<br>>>>>> holidays, but we do have next Tuesday's GO-ESSP slot. If you're<br>
>>>>> available and interested, please let us know, and Eric& Nate will put<br>>>>>> together a tour.<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> cheers - don<br>>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>>>>>> On Dec 7, 2011, at 1:01 PM, Karl Taylor wrote:<br>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>>> Dear Jennifer and Jean-Yves,<br>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> I apologize that there has been some confusion perpetrated concerning<br>>>>>>> the planned paths for ESG improvement. For CMIP5 we expect to clear<br>>>>>>> this up by the end of next week when we will post a clear statement<br>
>>>>>> outlining our plans.<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>> Thanks again for providing feedback that will improve the system.<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>> Best regards,<br>
>>>>>> Karl<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>> On 12/7/11 9:10 AM, Jennifer Adams wrote:<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>> Thank you, Karl, for a very helpful straight answer. One thing I<br>
>>>>>>> don't understand: Eric Neinhouse's statement that 'getting Gateway<br>>>>>>>> 2.0 in production at NCAR is a top priority' seems to be in direct<br>>>>>>>> conflict with what you wrote. Will Gateway 2.0 be for non-CMIP5 ESG<br>
>>>>>>> datasets, or are NCAR and PCMDI taking different approaches?<br>>>>>>>> --Jennifer<br>>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>> On Dec 7, 2011, at 11:29 AM, Karl Taylor wrote:<br>
>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>>> Dear Jennifer,<br>>>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your valuable input on how to improve the search and<br>
>>>>>>>> scripting capabilities of both the ESG Gateway 2.0 and the ESGF P2P<br>>>>>>>>> system.<br>>>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>>> Before you spend too much time attempting to optimize your download<br>
>>>>>>>> of CMIP5 data, you should know that we are very unlikely to<br>>>>>>>>> actually make Gateway 2.0 operational for CMIP5 model output.<br>>>>>>>>> Instead we will move directly to P2P. We believe that with<br>
>>>>>>>> currently available resources PCMDI and the ESG federation cannot<br>>>>>>>>> support two new systems. Instead we will keep our current<br>>>>>>>>> operational system running and bring on line the P2P. The testing<br>
>>>>>>>> phase of this should happen by the end of the month. At some point<br>>>>>>>>> the currently operational system will be turned off and the P2P<br>>>>>>>>> will become operational. Therefore, if as a CMIP5 user you plan to<br>
>>>>>>>> further explore the new systems, I suggest your time might be best<br>>>>>>>>> spent focusing on P2P.<br>>>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>>> P2P and Gateway 2.0 may have similar capabilities at this time, and<br>
>>>>>>>> both are substantially improved over previous versions of the<br>>>>>>>>> Gateway, but we're convinced that P2P provides a more robust and<br>>>>>>>>> flexible framework for adding future improvements. By going<br>
>>>>>>>> directly to P2P, we'll also minimize the inconvenience for users<br>>>>>>>>> already on the system.<br>>>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>>> Please let me know if you have any concerns about our plans. We<br>
>>>>>>>> realize the current system continues to be more difficult to use<br>>>>>>>>> than it should be, so your feedback and suggestions are<br>>>>>>>>> invaluable. Our focus is on getting the improvements offered by<br>
>>>>>>>> P2P in place as soon as possible. I will let you know if our<br>>>>>>>>> planned path to a better ESGF delivery system for CMIP5 data<br>>>>>>>>> changes. Please feel free to write me directly at<br>
>>>>>>>> <a href="mailto:taylor13@llnl.gov">taylor13@llnl.gov</a><br>>>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>>> best regards,<br>>>>>>>>> Karl<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> On 12/7/11 6:14 AM, Jennifer Adams wrote:<br>>>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>>>> Dear Colleagues,<br>>>>>>>>>> Here is more feedback on the prototype of Gateway 2.0. My current<br>
>>>>>>>>> use case is searching with a fixed experiment, realm, frequency,<br>>>>>>>>>> and a selected subset of variables. I'm delighted that you can<br>>>>>>>>>> select more than one variable and it will keep adding them to the<br>
>>>>>>>>> list of selected results. THANK YOU for listing the variables<br>>>>>>>>>> alphabetically by short name ("Variable Name"); the listing by<br>>>>>>>>>> long name ("CF Variable") is not useful to me, it is not<br>
>>>>>>>>> alphabetized, and some names are so long they wrap so it looks<br>>>>>>>>>> like there are three variables called "Flux in the Atmosphere",<br>>>>>>>>>> "Due to Natural", and "Sources". Oops, my bad, it's actually<br>
>>>>>>>>> "Surface Carbon Mass Flux into the Atmosphere Due to Natural<br>>>>>>>>>> Sources". Heh. QED.<br>>>>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>>>> When I'm done clicking on all my desired constraints, I get a URL<br>
>>>>>>>>> that looks like this :<br>>>>>>>>>> <a href="http://search-esg.prototype.ucar.edu/search?Type=Dataset&Experiment=decadal1960&Frequency=mon&Realm=atmos&Variable+Name=clt&Variable+Name=prw" target="_blank">http://search-esg.prototype.ucar.edu/search?Type=Dataset&Experiment=decadal1960&Frequency=mon&Realm=atmos&Variable+Name=clt&Variable+Name=prw</a><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>>>> <<a href="http://search-esg.prototype.ucar.edu/search?Type=Dataset&Experiment=decadal1960&Frequency=mon&Realm=atmos&Variable+Name=clt&Variable+Name=prw" target="_blank">http://search-esg.prototype.ucar.edu/search?Type=Dataset&Experiment=decadal1960&Frequency=mon&Realm=atmos&Variable+Name=clt&Variable+Name=prw</a>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>>>> That is great, because it means I can take a short cut from all<br>>>>>>>>>> the mouse clicking by building a URL that will create my desired<br>
>>>>>>>>> collection.<br>>>>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>>>> I am happy with the search results, so I click on the "Download<br>>>>>>>>>> Selected" button, and get a wget script called "script.wget".<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>>>> 1. It would be great if you could give the script a name that<br>>>>>>>>>> reflects the search constraints used to build that script --<br>
>>>>>>>>> something like<br>>>>>>>>>> wget.cmip5.decadal1960.mon.atmos.clt+prw.sh<br>>>>>>>>>> Every time I download a new wget script, I have to rename it to<br>
>>>>>>>>> something meaningful (such as the above) because the very next<br>>>>>>>>>> search result will overwrite script.wget, or give me<br>>>>>>>>>> "script(1).wget" instead, and I'll have no simple way to know what<br>
>>>>>>>>> data set that wget script is configured to bring back. Can you<br>>>>>>>>>> PLEASE give the wget script a relevant name for me so I can skip<br>>>>>>>>>> this time-consuming step?<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>>>> 2. Is there a way to use our favorite tool (wget) or curl to<br>>>>>>>>>> download the wget script so I can bypass the Gateway 2.0 browser<br>
>>>>>>>>> interface altogether? My guess is the answer is no, because of the<br>>>>>>>>>> elaborate login process with OpenID and username/password, but<br>>>>>>>>>> it's worth asking…<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>>>> -----------<br>>>>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>>>> As an alternative, I have looked carefully at the wiki page (and<br>
>>>>>>>>> its embedded links) on automated generation of wget scripts,<br>>>>>>>>>> <a href="http://www.esgf.org/wiki/ESGF_scripting" target="_blank">http://www.esgf.org/wiki/ESGF_scripting</a>. This is very promising,<br>
>>>>>>>>> and Luca assures me that the P2P service will be working in a<br>>>>>>>>>> matter of weeks.<br>>>>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>>>> I think the syntax of the URL for the same search as my example<br>
>>>>>>>>> above would be:<br>>>>>>>>>> <a href="http://esg-datanode.jpl.nasa.gov/esg-search/wget?experiment=decadal1960&realm=atmos&time_frequency=month&variable=clt,prw" target="_blank">http://esg-datanode.jpl.nasa.gov/esg-search/wget?experiment=decadal1960&realm=atmos&time_frequency=month&variable=clt,prw</a><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>>>> <<a href="http://esg-datanode.jpl.nasa.gov/esg-search/wget?experiment=decadal1960&realm=atmos&time_frequency=month&variable=clt,prw" target="_blank">http://esg-datanode.jpl.nasa.gov/esg-search/wget?experiment=decadal1960&realm=atmos&time_frequency=month&variable=clt,prw</a>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>>>> 1. Is the comma-delimited list of desired variables legitimate<br>>>>>>>>>> syntax?<br>
>>>>>>>>> 2. Will it work the way the Gateway 2.0 does to deliver my subset<br>>>>>>>>>> of variables?<br>>>>>>>>>> 3. Will "<a href="http://esg-datanode.jpl.nasa.gov/" target="_blank">http://esg-datanode.jpl.nasa.gov</a><br>
>>>>>>>>> <<a href="http://esg-datanode.jpl.nasa.gov/" target="_blank">http://esg-datanode.jpl.nasa.gov/</a>>" be the only location<br>>>>>>>>>> providing this service?<br>
>>>>>>>>> 4. Will the delivered wget script use certificates and checksums?<br>>>>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>>>> Since this isn't fully operational at the moment, I can't say for<br>
>>>>>>>>> sure whether this will be the better route for reaching my goal of<br>>>>>>>>>> acquiring CMIP5 data using only scripts and no browser.<br>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> Respectfully submitted,<br>>>>>>>>>> Jennifer<br>>>>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>>>> --<br>>>>>>>>>> Jennifer M. Adams<br>>>>>>>>>> IGES/COLA<br>>>>>>>>>> 4041 Powder Mill Road, Suite 302<br>
>>>>>>>>> Calverton, MD 20705<br>>>>>>>>>> <a href="mailto:jma@cola.iges.org">jma@cola.iges.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:jma@cola.iges.org">jma@cola.iges.org</a>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>>>><br>>>>>>>> --<br>>>>>>>> Jennifer M. Adams<br>
>>>>>>> IGES/COLA<br>>>>>>>> 4041 Powder Mill Road, Suite 302<br>>>>>>>> Calverton, MD 20705<br>>>>>>>> <a href="mailto:jma@cola.iges.org">jma@cola.iges.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:jma@cola.iges.org">jma@cola.iges.org</a>><br>
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