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    Hi Sylvia,<br>
    <br>
    A brief answer so somebody else (Graham?) can expand on this,
    comments in-line<br>
    <br>
    Am 29.11.2011 11:48, schrieb Sylvia Murphy:
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      <div>Hi Everyone,&nbsp;</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Last week I was copied on an email that came from Eric
        Guilyardi of Metafor who received a query from a user about
        CMIP5 model metadata. &nbsp; &nbsp;I ended up emailing the person directly
        to answer their question. &nbsp; I was rightly reminded that such
        offline assistance does not help the community be aware of
        issues affecting the federation. &nbsp; This made me realize how
        unclear I am on how CMIP5 support is currently working. &nbsp;So I
        have some questions.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>*&nbsp;Who are on&nbsp;the CMIP5_helpdesk and/or esg_support mailing
        lists?&nbsp;(e.g. who sees the issues affecting the federation)?</div>
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    Gateway administrators and some other people assigned for specific
    tasks. <br>
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      <div>* How are support requests farmed out? Would whomever is
        monitoring CMIP5_help know to send metadata related questions my
        way?&nbsp; <br>
      </div>
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    I think the idea would be for you to be in the Footprints system.
    There are some groups, and you could have people on multiple groups
    (I think I'm on Wget-script and DKRZ related issues). Graham can you
    add a group for Metadata and add Sylvia to it? (Sylvia, any one else
    that should be added?)<br>
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      <div>* Can subgroups of support be created such that 3-4 people
        can be responsible for a topic? <br>
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    Yes, that's how it works. *BUT* It's not automatic, so request have
    to be (sometimes) farmed out of the esg-support mailing list, other
    get directly to the Footprints server. In any case, someone has to
    decide who will be the assignee... basically you scan all mails from
    esg-support and "pick" the ones for metadata. I don't think there's
    anything more elaborated than data. (Graham, is that still so?)<br>
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      <div>* How do we know that requests have been answered? &nbsp;Is there
        tracking at all? <br>
      </div>
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    Footprints does all this, but there are some things you need to know
    about using it (I forgot a couple of times to set some checkboxes
    and the user never got my answers :-/ Either Stephen or Graham put a
    tutorial on this, it's fairly simply, but not incredible intuitive
    IMHO.<br>
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      <div>* I am not sure users are finding these support avenues. &nbsp;The
        links to the two mailing lists are listed under "contact us",
        vice "help" or "support". &nbsp; Sometimes that kind of subtle
        difference can be a big difference.&nbsp;&nbsp; Case in point: the user I
        dealt with did not know where to go and obviously Eric did not
        either.&nbsp; <br>
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    To add to the confusion not all pages look alike. We (DKRZ) have
    copied pretty much what BADC proposed and has, I think that the only
    difference is a direct link to the download help from the main page.
    Otherwise it was to hard to get there.<br>
    <br>
    This is our contact us page, if you have any improvements I'll be
    glad to add them, but I do think it's quite self-explanatory<br>
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      <h1>Contact Us</h1>
    </div>
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        <p> If the <a
            href="http://ipcc-ar5.dkrz.de/help/download-help.htm">HELP</a>
          page can't help you any further, don't hesitate to contact us!<br>
          <br>
          If you have any questions relating specifically to the CMIP5
          archive please send email to <a
href="mailto:cmip5-helpdesk@stfc.ac.uk?subject=%28ESG-WDCC%29%20CMIP5%20query:%20">CMIP5
            HelpDesk (cmip5-helpdesk@stfc.ac.uk)</a> stating the
          following information where possible: </p>
        <ol>
          <li>The URL of this site</li>
          <li>Your OpenID</li>
          <li>A brief description of your query</li>
        </ol>
        <p>Queries about this website that are not related to CMIP5 may
          be emailed to: <a
            href="mailto:esg-support@earthsystemgrid.org?subject=%28ESG-WDCC%29%20">esg-support@earthsystemgrid.org</a></p>
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    </div>
    The default one has the same thing without the first line (I got
    tired of telling people to read the help :-) BADC is using a special
    email account for handling BADC web questions (the second email)<br>
    <br>
    Older versions of the Gateway, e.g. at PCMDI, had a more simple
    page:<br>
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      <h1>Contact Us</h1>
    </div>
    <div id="bd">
      <div class="yui-g"> Any questions, comments, or concerns may be
        emailed to: <a
          href="mailto:esg-support%20AT%20earthsystemgrid.org">esg-support
          AT earthsystemgrid.org</a> </div>
    </div>
    <br>
    <br>
    I've already asked them to add a HELP tab to the one the Gateway is
    displaying, because going to "about" to find the help is *very*
    non-intuitive IMO. But I think there are some issues with that,
    that's why I've decided to link it directly from the front page.<br>
    <br>
    Any feedback for improving the user experience will be much
    appreciated!<br>
    <br>
    Thanks,<br>
    Estani<br>
    <br>
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      <div>Cheers,</div>
      <div>Sylvia</div>
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