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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi Jamie,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I've moved this thread to go-essp-tech for more general consultation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I have had virtually no guidance on how to manage the metadata for TAMIP(2) and therefore had to make a decision on the project name. IIRC I named it "TAMIP2" because the page at http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/tamip/data_download.html
called the <b>project</b> TAMIP2. However that page is now only available in Google's Cache! (Google TAMIP2) and there seems no online information about it. I have also seen it referred to as TAMIP phase II.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">So in hindsight maybe I made the wrong choice. We can change the name displayed in the Gateways very easily but it should be done in coordination and with the authority of someone who can speak for the project.
Do you know who that would be?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Stephen.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D">Stephen Pascoe +44 (0)1235 445980<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D">Centre of Environmental Data Archival<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D">STFC Rutherford Appleton Laboratory, Harwell Oxford, Didcot OX11 0QX, UK<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Kettleborough, Jamie [mailto:jamie.kettleborough@metoffice.gov.uk]
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<b>Sent:</b> 10 November 2011 17:34<br>
<b>To:</b> Pascoe, Stephen (STFC,RAL,RALSP); drach1@llnl.gov; Ganzberger1@llnl.gov<br>
<b>Cc:</b> esg-gateway-dev@earthsystemgrid.org; Kettleborough, Jamie<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [esg-gateway-dev] TAMIP2 project visibility<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">Hello Stephen,</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">Sorry, this may seem a small thing, but I'm not convinced that putting TAMIP2 is the right thing to do. The MIP tables for TAMIP (see
<a href="http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/tamip/data_req_submit.html">http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/tamip/data_req_submit.html</a>) call the project TAMIP (not TAMIP2). This means</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">1. all the NetCDF meta data from CMOR say TAMIP</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">2. DRS uses TAMIP</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">so why have two names for one thing in the same system? I think you are better keeping internal consistency (even if its wrong) and leave users to deal with it.
They have to anyway, unless you are proposing to modify all the netcdf attributes (triggering a new version!) and move all the files, and update all the catalog records (sorry, this last bit wasn't that helpful - I just let my imagination run away with me).</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">If you have two names for the same thing in the system you just have an extra mapping of this term to maintain... and my forecast is its going to catch up with you
sometime and confuse you (look at project=cmip5 vs project = IPCC...)</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue">Jamie</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> esg-gateway-dev-bounces@mailman.earthsystemgrid.org
[mailto:esg-gateway-dev-bounces@mailman.earthsystemgrid.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>
stephen.pascoe@stfc.ac.uk<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 20 October 2011 10:02<br>
<b>To:</b> drach1@llnl.gov; Ganzberger1@llnl.gov<br>
<b>Cc:</b> esg-gateway-dev@earthsystemgrid.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [esg-gateway-dev] TAMIP2 project visibility</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Could all CMIP5 gateways ensure they are harvesting TAMIP2 records from BADC and DKRZ. We have been asked to ensure TAMIP2 is visible along side CMIP5 throughout the federation.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We also have a naming problem again. some places have "tamip" and some "TAMIP2". It should be the latter. I have this fixed in our database but my plan is not to fix the facet search until we next have maintenance downtime (unless someone
can tell me how to fix the tripplestore without wiping it)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There is query on the helpdesk about this (See Issue 242).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Stephen.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas">Stephen Pascoe +44 (0)1235 445980<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas">Centre of Environmental Data Archival<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas">STFC Rutherford Appleton Laboratory, Harwell Oxford, Didcot OX11 0QX, UK<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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