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On 03/04/2011 01:46 AM, Estanislao Gonzalez wrote:
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Hi Mehmet,<br>
<br>
as of yesterday some datasets (being rcp85's some of them) were
still not published to the gateway, that's why you can't download
them.<br>
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What cmip3 data has NERSC? In which structure (i.e. original,
cmor-DRS or new DRS)?<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:4D70B4D9.1070400@zmaw.de" type="cite"> We
replicated everything BADC has which is 90% of the PCMDI's cmip3
archive in cmor-DRS structure. I don't want to publish it until I
know what BADC is going to do regarding this. I hope they will be
employing the drslib util to rearrange the files in the new DRS
structure and replubish them (is this feasible?). So that I'll do
the same here at DKRZ and we could use the replication tool to
publish a "real" replica and allow users to easily choose among
them.<br>
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Estani, we are in similar situation. We have the cmip3 data from
pcmdi. I published some of it for testing here at nersc (especially
for gridftp download tests).<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:4D70B4D9.1070400@zmaw.de" type="cite"> I
think, related to everything I was telling before on replicas,
that we are still missing the functionality for the end user to
download from multiple replicas at the same time. This will speed
up transfers considerably. I don't think this will be difficult to
accomplish, but I'm not sure. And again, I'm thinking plainly on a
queue of files and one consumer per replica-gateway, nothing finer
than that.<br>
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Thanks,<br>
Estani<br>
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Am 03.03.2011 23:25, schrieb Mehmet Balman:
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Hi Estani, <br>
<br>
I also see some problems while trying to replicate cmip5 data
from BADC. Some files gave authorization problems (403), some
are listed in thredds but they do not exist. <br>
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For example, can you access this file?<br>
<font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace"><a
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://cmip-dn.badc.rl.ac.uk/thredds/fileServer/esg_dataroot/cmip5/output1/MOHC/HadGEM2-ES/rcp85/day/atmos/day/r1i1p1/v20110127/prc/prc_day_HadGEM2-ES_rcp85_r1i1p1_20301201-20351130.nc">http://cmip-dn.badc.rl.ac.uk/thredds/fileServer/esg_dataroot/cmip5/output1/MOHC/HadGEM2-ES/rcp85/day/atmos/day/r1i1p1/v20110127/prc/prc_day_HadGEM2-ES_rcp85_r1i1p1_20301201-20351130.nc</a></font><br>
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I just parse everything from the thredds catalog. Here is how I
am getting files (see the script below for 12 streams). How do
you use wget?<br>
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If anybody wants to try gridftp downloads, nersc has cmip3 data
published with gridftp and http urls.<br>
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<font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">wget -nv <a
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href="http://cmip-dn.badc.rl.ac.uk/thredds/esgcet/catalog.html">http://cmip-dn.badc.rl.ac.uk/thredds/esgcet/catalog.html</a>
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href="http://cmip-dn.badc.rl.ac.uk/thredds/esgcet/">"http://cmip-dn.badc.rl.ac.uk/thredds/esgcet/"</a>
$1}'| xargs -P 12 -r -n 1 wget -nv -r --level 2
--certificate=/tmp/x509up_u48731
--private-key=/tmp/x509up_u48731
--ca-directory=~/.globus/certificates --save-cookies=cookie
--load-cookies=cookie</font><br>
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On 03/03/2011 09:38 AM, Estanislao Gonzalez wrote:
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Indeed it will Rachana.<br>
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I'm just performing a test (or was, as it's not working
anymore after 3TB... because of some technical difficulties
:-) to see how good/bad this is. And it was not bad at all
(while it worked).<br>
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I had quite some problems with guc too, so I'm just trying
different possibilities out.<br>
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And I see the SSL double redirection now, nice :-)<br>
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I think Stephen is already at that anyway, there were some
minimal problems with the publication.<br>
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And a single wget connection is now running at 12MB/s.<br>
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Thanks,<br>
Estani<br>
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Am 03.03.2011 18:26, schrieb Rachana Ananthakrishnan:
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<div>On Mar 3, 2011, at 11:23 AM, Estanislao Gonzalez
wrote:</div>
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<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Hi Rachana,<br>
<br>
yes the the only data that can be downloaded at the
moment is the one published at BADC and is http
only... <br>
well actually that I think it again, if the user sends
a certificate it means it got redirected to an SSL end
point, right? Is he then redirected back to the
original or is the connection being made via SSL? I'm
not sure now...<br>
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Data is download via HTTP, the redirection to SSL is to
verify identity of the user with certificates. </div>
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<div>I am reaching out to the various site administrators to
understand barriers for providing a GridFTP servers for
this. It appears to me that your experiment of replicating
TBs of data would benefit from a system that is built with
such use cases as focus. </div>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Rachana</div>
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<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Thanks,<br>
Estani<br>
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Am 03.03.2011 17:52, schrieb Rachana Ananthakrishnan:
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cite="mid:0153FEE9-2276-4047-A134-9FFCF7C6723F@mcs.anl.gov"
type="cite">Estani,
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<div>Are all these numbers using a HTTP based
download?</div>
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<div>Rachana</div>
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<div>On Mar 3, 2011, at 5:13 AM, Estanislao
Gonzalez wrote:</div>
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<div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Hi,<br>
<br>
by Michael suggestion I started a page in
the <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://esgf.org/">esgf.org</a> wiki
were we could write our measurement
regarding CMIP5 federation.<br>
It is not intended for the technical staff,
so don't complain about it being too
simplified :-)<br>
On the contrary, it is intended to be a very
first and rough approximation to what's
happening in the cloud by allowing everyone
in 5 sec to write a measurement down.<br>
<br>
Everyone has write access to this and if we
see the necessity we could evolve it into
something more detailed, but which will
certainly leave the lay users outside.<br>
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And the link:<br>
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href="http://esgf.org/wiki/Cmip5Status/Datarates">http://esgf.org/wiki/Cmip5Status/Datarates</a><br>
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Does someone else find this useful? Any
comments?<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Estani<br>
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Am 03.03.2011 09:04, schrieb Estanislao
Gonzalez:
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cite="mid:4D6F4B8A.4080509@zmaw.de"
type="cite"> Hi Karl,<br>
<br>
I'm currently testing the replication via
wget and got an average of 350 Mbps
(around 40MB/s) with 7 parallel streams in
the last 14 hours. I've already downloaded
2TB.<br>
<br>
So I guess the problem is across the
Atlantic. I'd suggest to start many more
parallel streams.<br>
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In any case I think this might be caused
by some problems/congestion in
intermediate networks. The network
throughput to ECMWF *might* not be
comparable because of the network
architecture, e.g. intermediate proxies,
firewalls, etc. But a 10x speed up might
be of no use anyway as downloading 1TB in
2 Months seems hardly to be an option...<br>
<br>
When we all have the data replicated
worldwide though, it will be possible to
download from all 3 servers at the same
time, which will more than double the
speed from this side of the ocean, and
will be a considerable speed up from
yours, although probably not as much
(don't nail me on this, I'll deny it
vehemently <- this is not my writing
:-)<br>
<br>
Anyway, this being said, the rest should
be answered by BADC directly.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Estani<br>
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Estanislao Gonzalez
Max-Planck-Institut für Meteorologie (MPI-M)
Deutsches Klimarechenzentrum (DKRZ) - German Climate Computing Centre
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Room 108 - Bundesstrasse 45a, D-20146 Hamburg, Germany
Phone: +49 (40) 46 00 94-126
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