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    Hi Rachana,<br>
    <br>
    yes the the only data that can be downloaded at the moment is the
    one published at BADC and is http only... <br>
    well actually that I think it again, if the user sends a certificate
    it means it got redirected to an SSL end point, right? Is he then
    redirected back to the original or is the connection being made via
    SSL? I'm not sure now...<br>
    <br>
    Thanks,<br>
    Estani<br>
    <br>
    Am 03.03.2011 17:52, schrieb Rachana Ananthakrishnan:
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:0153FEE9-2276-4047-A134-9FFCF7C6723F@mcs.anl.gov"
      type="cite">Estani,
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      </div>
      <div>Are all these numbers using a HTTP based download?</div>
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      </div>
      <div>Rachana</div>
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          <div>On Mar 3, 2011, at 5:13 AM, Estanislao Gonzalez wrote:</div>
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            <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Hi,<br>
              <br>
              by Michael suggestion I started a page in the <a
                moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://esgf.org">esgf.org</a>
              wiki were we could write our measurement regarding CMIP5
              federation.<br>
              It is not intended for the technical staff, so don't
              complain about it being too simplified :-)<br>
              On the contrary, it is intended to be a very first and
              rough approximation to what's happening in the cloud by
              allowing everyone in 5 sec to write a measurement down.<br>
              <br>
              Everyone has write access to this and if we see the
              necessity we could evolve it into something more detailed,
              but which will certainly leave the lay users outside.<br>
              <br>
              And the link:<br>
              <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                href="http://esgf.org/wiki/Cmip5Status/Datarates">http://esgf.org/wiki/Cmip5Status/Datarates</a><br>
              <br>
              Does someone else find this useful? Any comments?<br>
              <br>
              Thanks,<br>
              Estani<br>
              <br>
              Am 03.03.2011 09:04, schrieb Estanislao Gonzalez:
              <blockquote cite="mid:4D6F4B8A.4080509@zmaw.de"
                type="cite"> Hi Karl,<br>
                <br>
                I'm currently testing the replication via wget and got
                an average of 350 Mbps (around 40MB/s) with 7 parallel
                streams in the last 14 hours. I've already downloaded
                2TB.<br>
                <br>
                So I guess the problem is across the Atlantic. I'd
                suggest to start many more parallel streams.<br>
                <br>
                In any case I think this might be caused by some
                problems/congestion in intermediate networks. The
                network throughput to ECMWF *might* not be comparable
                because of the network architecture, e.g. intermediate
                proxies, firewalls, etc. But a 10x speed up might be of
                no use anyway as downloading 1TB in 2 Months seems
                hardly to be an option...<br>
                <br>
                When we all have the data replicated worldwide though,
                it will be possible to download from all 3 servers at
                the same time, which will more than double the speed
                from this side of the ocean, and will be a considerable
                speed up from yours, although probably not as much
                (don't nail me on this, I'll deny it vehemently &lt;-
                this is not my writing :-)<br>
                <br>
                Anyway, this being said, the rest should be answered by
                BADC directly.<br>
                <br>
                Thanks,<br>
                Estani<br>
                <br>
                Am 03.03.2011 02:26, schrieb Karl Taylor:<br>
                <span style="white-space: pre;">&gt; this should have
                  been sent to<br>
                  <br>
                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                    href="mailto:go-essp-tech@ucar.edu">go-essp-tech@ucar.edu</a><br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  &gt; <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  &gt; sorry about that.<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  &gt; <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  &gt; Karl<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  &gt; <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  &gt; -------- Original Message -------- Subject:
                  download rates<br>
                  <br>
                  Date:<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  &gt; Wed, 2 Mar 2011 16:43:42 -0800 From: Karl Taylor<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  &gt; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                    href="mailto:taylor13@llnl.gov">&lt;taylor13@llnl.gov&gt;</a><br>
                  To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                    href="mailto:esg-support@earthsystemgrid.org">esg-support@earthsystemgrid.org</a><br>
                  <br>
                  Grid<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  &gt; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                    href="mailto:esg-support@earthsystemgrid.org">&lt;esg-support@earthsystemgrid.org&gt;</a><br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  &gt; <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  &gt; <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  &gt; <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  &gt; Hi all,<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  &gt; <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  &gt; When I download a 25 MB CMIP5 file from BADC
                  using the wget<br>
                  <br>
                  method: *<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  &gt; it took 35 sec to get started * then it
                  downloaded at an<br>
                  <br>
                  average rate<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  &gt; of 1.1 MB/min<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  &gt; <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  &gt; When I download the same file using the point and
                  click<br>
                  <br>
                  method: * it<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  &gt; took 20 sec to get started * then it downloaded
                  at an<br>
                  average<br>
                  <br>
                  rate of<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  &gt; 1.4 MB/min<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  &gt; <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  &gt; When I download 4 files simultaneously (in
                  parallel) using<br>
                  <br>
                  the click<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  &gt; method, I get somewhat slower download rate per
                  file, so<br>
                  <br>
                  somewhat<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  &gt; less than 4 times the data transfer rate I would
                  have<br>
                  gotten<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  &gt; downloading them in series.<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  &gt; <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  &gt; Note that at 1 MB/min, I could download 1 GB in
                  about 17<br>
                  <br>
                  hours or 1<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  &gt; TB (i.e., about 1/1000 of the entire archive) in
                  about 2<br>
                  <br>
                  years.<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  &gt; <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  &gt; Any way to speed this up some? (A colleague here
                  downloads<br>
                  <br>
                  files at<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  &gt; about 10 times this rate from ECMWF.)<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  &gt; <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  &gt; Note that I haven't checked how fast download
                  rates are<br>
                  from<br>
                  <br>
                  nodes<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  &gt; published to our (PCMDI's) gateway (since they
                  are not yet<br>
                  <br>
                  publicly<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  &gt; available).<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  &gt; <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  &gt; Best regards, Karl<br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  &gt; <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  &gt; <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  &gt; <br>
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                  &gt; <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  <br>
                  &gt; _______________________________________________<br>
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                <br>
                Max-Planck-Institut f&uuml;r Meteorologie (MPI-M)<br>
                Deutsches Klimarechenzentrum (DKRZ) - German Climate
                Computing Centre<br>
                Room 108 - Bundesstrasse 45a, D-20146 Hamburg, Germany<br>
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                  href="mailto:estanislao.gonzalez@zmaw.de">estanislao.gonzalez@zmaw.de</a>
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Max-Planck-Institut f&uuml;r Meteorologie (MPI-M)
Deutsches Klimarechenzentrum (DKRZ) - German Climate Computing Centre
Room 108 - Bundesstrasse 45a, D-20146 Hamburg, Germany

Phone:   +49 (40) 46 00 94-126
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                        <div>Rachana Ananthakrishnan</div>
                        <div>Argonne National Lab | University of
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Max-Planck-Institut f&uuml;r Meteorologie (MPI-M)
Deutsches Klimarechenzentrum (DKRZ) - German Climate Computing Centre
Room 108 - Bundesstrasse 45a, D-20146 Hamburg, Germany

Phone:   +49 (40) 46 00 94-126
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