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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi Luca,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Nice summary. On the “activity”, the label “CMIP5” come from the WCRP program and provides a link between the archive and the meetings and discussions that
led to its creation – is there a similar label for your activity that can be used?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Martin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> go-essp-tech-bounces@ucar.edu [mailto:go-essp-tech-bounces@ucar.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Cinquini, Luca (3880)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 31 January 2011 14:59<br>
<b>To:</b> Lawrence, Bryan (STFC,RAL,SSTD)<br>
<b>Cc:</b> go-essp-tech@ucar.edu; Sébastien Denvil; climate-obs; Renata McCoy; Lynnes, Christopher S. (GSFC-6102)<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Go-essp-tech] Extending the DRS syntax to observations<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-tab-span"> </span>thanks to everybody for the lively discussion... I just wanted to summarize what I think is the status so far - I posted this also on the wiki. Please keep the discussion going...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">thanks, Luca<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Open Questions</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:13.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Agree on basic DRS-like structure for observations and meaning of each field<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:13.0pt;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo1"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Use activity="cmip5" or activity="cmip54obs", "obs4models" ?<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:13.0pt;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo1"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">DRS hierarchy for models (partial): "institute" > "model" > "experiment" > "ensemble"<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:13.0pt;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo1"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Current proposed hierarchy for observations (partial): "institute" (="agency") > "mission" > "instrument" > ("processing
level" + "other specifiers")<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:13.0pt;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo1"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Alternative proposal for observations (partial): "institute" (="agency") > "instrument" > "processing level" > ?<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:13.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Decide on wether to have one single CMOR table for observations (currently "obsSites"), or more than one depending on
types of observational data: <o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:13.0pt;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo1"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">remote sensed (grids and swaths)<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:13.0pt;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo1"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">in-situ stations (time series and profiles)<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:13.0pt;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo1"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">trajectory-based observations<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:13.0pt;mso-list:l1 level2 lfo1"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">in-situ gridded products<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:13.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Decide on wether to encode global attributes for data source in netcdf files ("source", "source_datastream", "source_url",
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Action Items</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:13.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Populate CV for observations (decide on upper/lower case)<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:13.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Produce some reference datasets<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:13.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Develop snippet of "esg.ini" (ESG publisher) configuration for processing observations<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:42 AM, Bryan Lawrence wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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Hi Folks<br>
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Sorry I've come late to this discussion.<br>
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I've got just two simple points to make (for now).<br>
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Firstly, I think this activity (organising observational data to support <br>
CMIP5) is not the same as cmip5 itself. Sooner or later things break in <br>
the DRS heirarchy doing this, and so I think it would be helpful to all <br>
consumers if this was dealt with at the top level of the DRS. <br>
Additionally, remember obs are timeless, models are not. This data will <br>
be useful beyond cmip5 (e.g. cordex). So I recommend *not* shoehorning <br>
all the obs data under cmip5 in the DRS.<br>
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The DRS allows you to define new activiites, and I'd do so, something <br>
like obs4models or (if you must) cmip5obs ....<br>
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Otherwise I'm fine with the approach. <br>
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Secondly, wrt to Steve's list below: there is of course swath data as <br>
well ... but otherwise I rather agree that 3 and 1 can be handled the <br>
same.<br>
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Cheers<br>
Bryan<br>
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