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<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi all,<div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>thanks to everybody for the lively discussion... I just wanted to summarize what I think is the status so far - I posted this also on the wiki. Please keep the discussion going...</div><div>thanks, Luca</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 17px; "><p style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 13pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: normal; margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><b>Open Questions</b></p><ul style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 13pt; list-style-type: disc; "><li style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 13pt; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">Agree on basic DRS-like structure for observations and meaning of each field<ul style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 13pt; list-style-type: disc; "><li style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 13pt; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">Use activity="cmip5" or activity="cmip54obs", "obs4models" ?</li><li style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 13pt; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">DRS hierarchy for models (partial): "institute" > "model" > "experiment" > "ensemble"</li><li style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 13pt; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">Current proposed hierarchy for observations (partial): "institute" (="agency") > "mission" > "instrument" > ("processing level" + "other specifiers")</li><li style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 13pt; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">Alternative proposal for observations (partial): "institute" (="agency") > "instrument" > "processing level" > ?</li></ul></li><li style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 13pt; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">Decide on wether to have one single CMOR table for observations (currently "obsSites"), or more than one depending on types of observational data: <ul style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 13pt; list-style-type: disc; "><li style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 13pt; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">remote sensed (grids and swaths)</li><li style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 13pt; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">in-situ stations (time series and profiles)</li><li style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 13pt; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">trajectory-based observations</li><li style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 13pt; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">in-situ gridded products</li></ul></li><li style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 13pt; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">Decide on wether to encode global attributes for data source in netcdf files ("source", "source_datastream", "source_url", "source_reference")</li></ul><p style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 13pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: normal; margin-top: 10px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; "><b>Action Items</b></p><ul style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 13pt; list-style-type: disc; "><li style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 13pt; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">Populate CV for observations (decide on upper/lower case)</li><li style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 13pt; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">Produce some reference datasets</li><li style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 13pt; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; ">Develop snippet of "esg.ini" (ESG publisher) configuration for processing observations<br> </li></ul></span><div><br></div><div><div>On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:42 AM, Bryan Lawrence wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><br>Hi Folks<br><br>Sorry I've come late to this discussion.<br><br>I've got just two simple points to make (for now).<br><br>Firstly, I think this activity (organising observational data to support <br>CMIP5) is not the same as cmip5 itself. Sooner or later things break in <br>the DRS heirarchy doing this, and so I think it would be helpful to all <br>consumers if this was dealt with at the top level of the DRS. <br>Additionally, remember obs are timeless, models are not. This data will <br>be useful beyond cmip5 (e.g. cordex). So I recommend *not* shoehorning <br>all the obs data under cmip5 in the DRS.<br><br>The DRS allows you to define new activiites, and I'd do so, something <br>like obs4models or (if you must) cmip5obs ....<br><br>Otherwise I'm fine with the approach. <br><br>Secondly, wrt to Steve's list below: there is of course swath data as <br>well ... but otherwise I rather agree that 3 and 1 can be handled the <br>same.<br><br>Cheers<br>Bryan<br><br><br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>