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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>How about
freely distributing encrypted files and making encryption keys available to registered
users? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Martin
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font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:windowtext'> go-essp-tech-bounces@ucar.edu
[mailto:go-essp-tech-bounces@ucar.edu] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf
Of </span></b>Steve Hankin<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 21 April 2010 22:22<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> asim@lbl.gov<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> GO-ESSP<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Go-essp-tech]
BioTorrents<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>2 philosophical cents (well, really a rant, I'll
admit):<br>
<br>
A remarkable number of the best, easiest, and most powerful ideas are pushed
off of our table by a perceived requirement that access to data be
restricted. Elements of this are inevitable. Still I believe
that we should find much better ways as a data technology community (including
our own ESG project) to allow the superior technology options that become
available through open access to shine. <br>
<br>
At the org-chart level there is a broken system of checks-and-balances.
The requirements for restricted access are imposed down the line in the org
chart, without any mechanism for push-back -- for explaining to those who
impose the restrictions what unintended price is being paid by doing so.
While the org chart relationships tie our hands, the Web as a visible showcase
for good ideas can provide the missing force of balance. We are seeing
just this as we weigh BioTorrents against our own solutions. <br>
<br>
I wonder if we shouldn't be promoting the (superior) technologies that become
available with open access in parallel with the (costly and permanently slower
to evolve) secure federated approaches. Clearly access-restricted
datasets could not be hosted on the open systems. But that absence would
be precisely the loss that makes the technology cost of restricted access
visible. Building dual-access systems would be an imperfect
solution to an imperfect social equation. But it would allow us to
contribute to long-term improvements in dysfunctional policies at the same time
that we explore (fun) new technologies.<br>
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- Steve<br>
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Alex Sim wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<pre><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>If we can resolve authorization aspects on the datasets with torrents,<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>we can probably support torrents technology in the future. all data<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>access is open in this torrents and most others too.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>-- Alex<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>On 4/20/10 8:40 AM, V. Balaji wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre><font size=2
color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><a
href="http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0010071">http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0010071</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>It's a great pity we aren't using torrent technology in our field...<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre></blockquote>
<pre><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>GO-ESSP-TECH mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
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size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><a
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<pre><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>-- <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Steve Hankin, NOAA/PMEL -- <a
href="mailto:Steven.C.Hankin@noaa.gov">Steven.C.Hankin@noaa.gov</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>7600 Sand Point Way NE, Seattle, WA 98115-0070<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>ph. (206) 526-6080, FAX (206) 526-6744<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>to do nothing." -- Edmund Burke<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre></div>
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