<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">This is a correct statement.<div><br></div><div>-Dean</div><div><br><div><div>On Nov 19, 2009, at 4:04 AM, <<a href="mailto:bryan.lawrence@stfc.ac.uk">bryan.lawrence@stfc.ac.uk</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div lang="EN-GB" link="blue" vlink="navy"><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="City"><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"><div class="Section1"><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; ">Hi Stephen<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; ">Bob or someone else can confirm, but I think the issue is that ESG in general is aiming at supporting more than just the DRS, so while conforming to DRS is a given for CMIP5, it’s not a given for all the datasets that ESG may work with.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; ">Bryan</span></font></st1:place></st1:city><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; text-align: center; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt; "><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center" tabindex="-1"></span></font></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold; ">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:go-essp-tech-bounces@ucar.edu">go-essp-tech-bounces@ucar.edu</a> [<a href="mailto:go-essp-tech-bounces@ucar.edu" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">mailto:go-essp-tech-bounces@ucar.edu</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><a href="mailto:stephen.pascoe@stfc.ac.uk" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">stephen.pascoe@stfc.ac.uk</a><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Sent:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>19 November 2009 11:49<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">To:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:drach@llnl.gov" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">drach@llnl.gov</a><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Cc:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:go-essp-tech@ucar.edu" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">go-essp-tech@ucar.edu</a><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Subject:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Go-essp-tech] DRS hierarchy on disk</span></font><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">At the telco this Tuesday I was slightly surprised when someone (I think Bob) asserted data is not likely to follow the DRS hierarchy on disk. Although we know the disk layout can be mapped to DRS URLs in the web server I thought our default position was that we would lay out the data in the DRS hierarchy because it is the simplest solution.</span></font><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">This issue came up in a meeting with UKMO yesterday where they thought there was a strong reason for using the DRS on disk so that fallback positions like ftp follow a consistent structure. I also learnt that CMOR2 will output to the DRS hierarchy automatically.</span></font><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">Given this, why wouldn't we want to insist all datasets are stored on disk in the DRS hierarchy?</span></font><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">Thanks,</span></font><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">Stephen.</span></font><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">---</span></font><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">Stephen Pascoe +44 (0)1235 445980</span></font><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">British Atmospheric Data Centre</span></font><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">Rutherford Appleton Laboratory</span></font><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "> <o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>Scanned by iCritical.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><div style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; margin-top: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div></div><br><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; ">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>Scanned by iCritical.</p><br>_______________________________________________<br>GO-ESSP-TECH mailing list<br><a href="mailto:GO-ESSP-TECH@ucar.edu" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">GO-ESSP-TECH@ucar.edu</a><br>http://*mailman.ucar.edu/mailman/listinfo/go-essp-tech<br></o:smarttagtype></o:smarttagtype></div></span></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>