Subject: RE: [ESP] RE: ESP sourceforge

From: "Kleese, K (Kerstin)" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 09:03:04 -0000

Dear Dean,
Andrew will set up a CVS repository, however I thought we needed to set up
the Source forge here as well?
Best wishes,
Kerstin

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-----Original Message-----
From: Dean N. Williams [mailto:[email-masked]]
Sent: 29 January 2003 19:49
To: Woolf, A (Andrew)
Cc: Esp (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [ESP] RE: ESP sourceforge

Hi Andrew,

    Sourceforge is free and a great way to manage the code releases and 
bug fixes.
    I would definitely recommend this as a way to go. It shouldn't be 
too hard for
    Chris (or Eric) to setup. I think the first thing to do (that is, 
once we have some
    code to share) is to setup a CVS code repository. (I believe Kerstin 
will be doing
    this.)

-Dean

>While sourceforge can certainly be used for generic web hosting, I'm
>guessing Chris' page will point to the sourceforge for code development.
Was
>that the idea, Kerstin?
>
>Dean - comments on sf licences?
>
>  
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Don Middleton [mailto:[email-masked]]
>>Sent: 29 January 2003 17:58
>>To: Woolf, A (Andrew) ; Kleese, K (Kerstin); Lawrence, BN (Bryan) 
>>Cc: Don Middleton
>>Subject: Re: ESP sourceforge
>>
>>
>>Hi Andrew et al - Perhaps we should open up the discussion to 
>>the list? At
>>the very least, we should add Dean in as he's already got 
>>CDAT on SF and has
>>likely considered the license issues. So, 1) Chris will 
>>almost certainly be
>>crafting a project description for the website and we could 
>>reuse here.
>>Also, what's the relationship between Chris' website, the SF 
>>site, and the
>>future UK site? 2) As above, Dean (and probably others on the 
>>list) could
>>contribute and, 3) "esportal" seems like a good compromise to me.
>>
>>Might see you in Belgium!
>>
>>don
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Woolf, A (Andrew) " <[email-masked]>
>>To: "'Don Middleton'" <[email-masked]>; "Kleese, K (Kerstin)"
>><[email-masked]>; "Lawrence, BN (Bryan) " <[email-masked]>
>>Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 10:31 AM
>>Subject: ESP sourceforge
>>
>>
>>    
>>
>>>I was asked to set up an ESP sourceforge site.
>>>
>>>Terms and Conditions look reasonably innocuous, but include the
>>>"...royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive and fully
>>>sublicensable right and license to use, reproduce, modify, 
>>>      
>>>
>>adapt, publish,
>>    
>>
>>>translate, create derivative works from, distribute, 
>>>      
>>>
>>perform and display
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>>
>>>[any uploaded material including source code] worldwide and/or to
>>>incorporate it in other works in any form, media, or 
>>>      
>>>
>>technology now known
>>or
>>    
>>
>>>later developed, all subject to the terms of any applicable approved
>>>license". I assume everyone's OK with that. Full T&C if 
>>>      
>>>
>>interested are at
>>    
>>
>>>http://sourceforge.net/tos/tos.php.
>>>
>>>I need two things:
>>>
>>>1) A project description. Approval by sourceforge is based 
>>>      
>>>
>>on this, so it
>>    
>>
>>>needs to be reasonably detailed. I could have a shot, but 
>>>      
>>>
>>wasn't actually
>>    
>>
>>>there when ESP was invented, so please could someone else give me
>>>      
>>>
>>something.
>>    
>>
>>>2) Open-source licence. There around 40 canned choices
>>>(http://www.opensource.org/licenses/) or we can request a 
>>>      
>>>
>>custom one. I am
>>    
>>
>>>no expert and haven't read them all, so maybe something 
>>>      
>>>
>>short and sweet
>>like
>>    
>>
>>>the BSD or MIT would be best. Let me have your thoughts. 
>>>      
>>>
>>Must this be ran
>>by
>>    
>>
>>>our legal/outreach dept's?
>>>
>>>Finally, there is already a sourceforge ESP project
>>>(http://sourceforge.net/projects/esp/), so we'll need 
>>>      
>>>
>>another short name.
>>    
>>
>>>Perhaps esportal?
>>>
>>> - Andrew
>>>
>>>-----------------------------------------------------
>>>Dr Andrew Woolf ([email-masked])
>>>Data Management Group, e-Science Centre
>>>Rutherford Appleton Lab,
>>>Chilton, Didcot,
>>>Oxon., OX11 0QX, UK
>>>Ph: +44 (0)1235 778027
>>>http://www.escience.clrc.ac.uk/person/a.woolf
>>>
>>>      
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From: "Dean N. Williams" <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 04:25:16 -0800

Hi Kerstin,

    I agree! Your group can set up both the CVS repository and Source 
Forge. Thanks!
    Chris and Eric and anyone else can set a link to it if they wish.

Best regards,
    Dean