[CFIC] CFIC: Action Plan

Pat Waukau waukau at ucar.edu
Thu Jan 24 07:19:00 MST 2008


Terri,

I have added Deirdre to the Computing Facilities Implementation Committee
wiki.  As yours was an appointed position by the President's Council, 
notification of request for change should be approved by them.  I would
suggest sending a brief email to Katy Schmoll requesting the change. 

Thanks, Pat 

On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 04:47:58PM -0700, Terri Betancourt wrote:
> Pat,
> 
> As I understand it, there were several folks from CFIC that attended the
> meeting with Gina and Katy on Monday of last week to discuss the current FL0
> charging scheme.  I¹m sure those that were in attendance are in a much
> better position to update the committee on the outcome of that meeting.
> 
> Gina held a follow-up meeting at RAL last Friday to continue discussions of
> both short-term and long-term strategies for charging schemes applied to
> shared computing facilities.  It was very helpful for me to hear from such a
> broad group of participants some of the key issues involved in establishing
> and implementing the complexities of such a charging scheme.  It also became
> clear to me at this meeting that my position on the CFIC would be much
> better served by a longer range view than what I have been able to provide.
> Fortunately, Deirdre Garvey, who is responsible for long-range computing
> facilities planning in RAL has agreed to step into my position on the CFIC.
> 
> If you would provide Deirdre with a login to the CFIC wiki, I will update
> her on its content, the working groups, and the upcoming meeting, and
> reporting goal to the President¹s Council.
> 
> Many thanks,
> - Terri b.
> 
> 
> On 1/8/08 4:09 PM, "Pat Waukau" <waukau at ucar.edu> wrote:
> 
> > Terri,
> > 
> > Thanks for this update.  I believe the second meeting has already occurred.
> > If you are provided an update as to the outcomes of the meeting, I would
> > appreciate if you would update the committee.
> > 
> > Thanks, Pat
> > 
> > On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 08:04:39AM -0700, Terri Betancourt wrote:
> >> > Pat, Shawn,
> >> >
> >>> > > Cost Allocation
> >>> > >   - Work with Justin on cost model
> >>> > >     - Develop ML and CG3 scenarios
> >>> > >       - Use estimates of current utility costs for existing computer
> >>> rooms.
> >>> > >       - Use current div/prog space usage for calculations
> >>> > >       - Have Finance provide 10-year dep/int costs
> >>> > >       - Use construction cost estimates provided by consultants
> >>> > >       - Include remaining dep/int on CISL infrastructure (i.e.
> >>> generators,
> >>> > > etc.)
> >>> > >       - Include costs for annual infrastructure maintenance (Aaron)
> >>> > >     - Provide cost projections for individual entities
> >>> > >   - For informational purposes we will need specific information on
> >>> options
> >>> > > for
> >>> > >     groups to incorporate costs into their budgets.
> >>> > >     - Inclusion of costs in proposal process
> >>> > >     - Direct vs indirect
> >>> > >     - CSC
> >>> > >     - When does overhead apply
> >>> > >   - Where do Management Group costs reside (Communications Pool)?
> >>> > >   - How will divisions/programs be informed about how to effectively
> >>> > >     incorporate costs into budgets?
> >>> > >
> >> > With regard to the cost allocation working group, I thought it would be
> >> > worth mentioning where RAL is in this process.  As you know, we have been
> >> > paying for both utilities and some percentage of the bonds that were used
> >> to
> >> > fund the FL0 build-out.  Just before the holidays, we met with Gina
> >> Taberski
> >> > and some folks from F&A (Dan Wilson and Anita Monk-Ryan) to discuss the
> >> > possibilities of establishing a new charging scheme for the FL0 cost
> >> > allocations.  Many, if not all, of the issues that are being discussed in
> >> > the context of FL0 are likely to be relevant to the CFIC cost allocation
> >> > proposal.
> >> >
> >> > I believe that Gina has a follow-up meeting set with Katy, Dan, Melissa, >>
> and
> >> > Jeff for next week, so there should be some valuable information and
> >> > guidance that comes out of that meeting.  I mention this so that we can
> >> > begin to align the cost allocation plan with what seems to be a parallel
> >> > effort to sort out the account details for possible charging schemes.
> >> >
> >> > Cheers and Happy New Year!
> >> > - Terri b.
> > 
> > --
> > Pat Waukau   waukau at ucar.edu
> > Head, Systems Group
> > Mesoscale and Microscale Meteorology Division
> > NCAR
> > P. O. Box 3000
> > Boulder, CO  80307
> > (303) 497-8906 (Office)
> > (303) 497-8181 (FAX)
> > 
> > 
> 
> 

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Pat Waukau   waukau at ucar.edu
Head, Systems Group
Mesoscale and Microscale Meteorology Division
NCAR
P. O. Box 3000 
Boulder, CO  80307
(303) 497-8906 (Office)
(303) 497-8181 (FAX)



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