[CFIC] CFIC: Action Plan
terrib at ucar.edu
Fri Jan 18 16:47:58 MST 2008
As I understand it, there were several folks from CFIC that attended the
meeting with Gina and Katy on Monday of last week to discuss the current FL0
charging scheme. I¹m sure those that were in attendance are in a much
better position to update the committee on the outcome of that meeting.
Gina held a follow-up meeting at RAL last Friday to continue discussions of
both short-term and long-term strategies for charging schemes applied to
shared computing facilities. It was very helpful for me to hear from such a
broad group of participants some of the key issues involved in establishing
and implementing the complexities of such a charging scheme. It also became
clear to me at this meeting that my position on the CFIC would be much
better served by a longer range view than what I have been able to provide.
Fortunately, Deirdre Garvey, who is responsible for long-range computing
facilities planning in RAL has agreed to step into my position on the CFIC.
If you would provide Deirdre with a login to the CFIC wiki, I will update
her on its content, the working groups, and the upcoming meeting, and
reporting goal to the President¹s Council.
- Terri b.
On 1/8/08 4:09 PM, "Pat Waukau" <waukau at ucar.edu> wrote:
> Thanks for this update. I believe the second meeting has already occurred.
> If you are provided an update as to the outcomes of the meeting, I would
> appreciate if you would update the committee.
> Thanks, Pat
> On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 08:04:39AM -0700, Terri Betancourt wrote:
>> > Pat, Shawn,
>>> > > Cost Allocation
>>> > > - Work with Justin on cost model
>>> > > - Develop ML and CG3 scenarios
>>> > > - Use estimates of current utility costs for existing computer
>>> > > - Use current div/prog space usage for calculations
>>> > > - Have Finance provide 10-year dep/int costs
>>> > > - Use construction cost estimates provided by consultants
>>> > > - Include remaining dep/int on CISL infrastructure (i.e.
>>> > > etc.)
>>> > > - Include costs for annual infrastructure maintenance (Aaron)
>>> > > - Provide cost projections for individual entities
>>> > > - For informational purposes we will need specific information on
>>> > > for
>>> > > groups to incorporate costs into their budgets.
>>> > > - Inclusion of costs in proposal process
>>> > > - Direct vs indirect
>>> > > - CSC
>>> > > - When does overhead apply
>>> > > - Where do Management Group costs reside (Communications Pool)?
>>> > > - How will divisions/programs be informed about how to effectively
>>> > > incorporate costs into budgets?
>>> > >
>> > With regard to the cost allocation working group, I thought it would be
>> > worth mentioning where RAL is in this process. As you know, we have been
>> > paying for both utilities and some percentage of the bonds that were used
>> > fund the FL0 build-out. Just before the holidays, we met with Gina
>> > and some folks from F&A (Dan Wilson and Anita Monk-Ryan) to discuss the
>> > possibilities of establishing a new charging scheme for the FL0 cost
>> > allocations. Many, if not all, of the issues that are being discussed in
>> > the context of FL0 are likely to be relevant to the CFIC cost allocation
>> > proposal.
>> > I believe that Gina has a follow-up meeting set with Katy, Dan, Melissa, >>
>> > Jeff for next week, so there should be some valuable information and
>> > guidance that comes out of that meeting. I mention this so that we can
>> > begin to align the cost allocation plan with what seems to be a parallel
>> > effort to sort out the account details for possible charging schemes.
>> > Cheers and Happy New Year!
>> > - Terri b.
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