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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>All,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> At Virginia Tech, about ten
years ago when this came up, it was the physics and chemistry professors who
claimed that Earth Science is not a science. It was science faculty who
vetoed using Earth Science as a science for admission to VT.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Susan</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=moores@geology.ucdavis.edu
href="mailto:moores@geology.ucdavis.edu">Eldridge Moores</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=pmessina@geosun.sjsu.edu
href="mailto:pmessina@geosun.sjsu.edu">Paula Messina</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=metzger@geosun.sjsu.edu
href="mailto:metzger@geosun.sjsu.edu">Ellen Metzger</A> ; <A
title=ceselist@mailman.ucar.edu
href="mailto:ceselist@mailman.ucar.edu">ceselist@mailman.ucar.edu</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 01, 2007 12:21
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [CESElist] Earth System
Science Certification Program</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Dear Paula et al.,
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<DIV>Yes, it is true that there is a problem with the UC system and its
acceptance of Earth and Space Sciences as a laboratory science for admission.?
I've been working on this issue for about 3 years, and it's making slow
progress.? For your information, here is a version of the the "talking points"
I have sent to various UC Academic Senate committees.? In the UC system, it is
the faculty, acting through the Academic Senate, which makes the decisions
about admissions requirements.? And the UC system is the basic "carburetor"
for the entire State of California.? To change the system in California, one
has to change the opinions of the UC faculty.? If you know of any, please let
them know!</DIV>
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<DIV>Best regards,</DIV>
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<DIV>Eldridge?<SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV>On Jul 31, 2007, at 9:44 PM, Paula Messina wrote:</DIV><BR
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<DIV>Eldridge M. Moores, Ph.D., D.Sc</DIV>
<DIV>Distinguished Professor Emeritus</DIV>
<DIV>Vice President, International Union of Geological Sciences</DIV>
<DIV>Geology Department</DIV>
<DIV>One Shields Avenue</DIV>
<DIV>University of California</DIV>
<DIV>Davis, CA 95616-8605 USA</DIV>
<DIV>Tel: 1-530-752-0352</DIV>
<DIV>Email: <A
href="mailto:moores@geology.ucdavis.edu">moores@geology.ucdavis.edu</A></DIV><BR
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<P></P>Dear Paula et al.,<BR><BR>Yes, it is true that there is a problem with
the UC system and its <BR>acceptance of Earth and Space Sciences as a
laboratory science for <BR>admission. I've been working on this
issue for about 3 years, and <BR>it's making slow progress. For
your information, here is a version <BR>of the the "talking points" I
have sent to various UC Academic Senate <BR>committees. In the UC
system, it is the faculty, acting through the <BR>Academic Senate, which
makes the decisions about admissions <BR>requirements. And the UC
system is the basic "carburetor" for the <BR>entire State of
California. To change the system in California, one <BR>has to
change the opinions of the UC faculty. If you know of any,
<BR>please let them know!<BR><BR>Best regards,<BR><BR>Eldridge <BR>On Jul 31,
2007, at 9:44 PM, Paula Messina wrote:<BR><BR>>
_______________________________________________<BR><BR>Eldridge M. Moores,
Ph.D., D.Sc<BR>Distinguished Professor Emeritus<BR>Vice President,
International Union of Geological Sciences<BR>Geology Department<BR>One
Shields Avenue<BR>University of California<BR>Davis, CA 95616-8605 USA<BR>Tel:
1-530-752-0352<BR>Email: moores@geology.ucdavis.edu<BR><BR><BR>
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